[Vision2020] ZINGALING...

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 27 11:14:15 PDT 2006


Ah....so you hitting an arrow that has already hit the target, thereby more 
fully embedding the first arrow is ok with you?  Glad for it, bud.  Thanks 
for the help.   :)



J  :]





>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] ZINGALING...
>Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:28:46 -0700
>
>ZING!  And another arrow splits that arrow from stern to stem.  Better 
>one!!
>
>T :)
>----- Original Message ----- From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>
>
>>ZING!  and the arrow strikes smack in the middle of the target!  Good one!
>>
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>>J  :]
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>>>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>>To: tonytime at clearwire.net, joekc at adelphia.net
>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>>>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:05:37 -0700
>>>
>>>Wouldn't it be wonderful if the avowedly pro-life were in favor of things
>>>that sustain and nurture human life AFTER birth?
>>>
>>>A "seamless garment" of pro-life concern includes opposition to abortion
>>>(not necessarily support for law, but support for a culture shift), as 
>>>well
>>>as a reverence for the lives of poor children, disabled children, school
>>>children, children of undocumented workers, incarcerated people, sick
>>>people, poor people, elderly people, and all people until the time of
>>>natural death.  Trouble is, I hardly ever see an emphasis from "pro-life"
>>>people on anything other than fetal life . . .
>>>
>>>keely
>>>
>>>
>>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>>To: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>>>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:57:42 -0700
>>>
>>>Joe, instances in which an abortion is the only alternative to losing the
>>>mother are EXTREMELY rare.  I think you know that this is a red herring.
>>>
>>>As far as killing a child to preclude potential future suffering.... that
>>>is
>>>not a justification I would ever want to be in a position of supporting.
>>>What of a physically healthy child born into extreme poverty or an 
>>>abusive
>>>home?  Should we snuff them out as well?  Joe, you are engaging in
>>>intellectual twister in an effort to rationalize what your heart must be
>>>telling you is horribly wrong.  You have been conned by our culture of
>>>death.
>>>
>>>   It is not too late for you to assert your instincts, dispense with the
>>>straitjacket of liberal orthodoxy and STAND UP FOR LIFE!
>>>
>>>Best,  -T
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>>>To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:01 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>  > Dear Tony,
>>>  >
>>>  > Sorry my dear friend but you are mistaken. There are in fact a
>>>multitude
>>>  > of justifications for particular abortions: the mother's life is in
>>>  > danger, the child is destined to have a short life yet suffer a great
>>>  > deal, etc.
>>>  >
>>>  > Are you suggesting that the decision to take a human life in the
>>>context
>>>  > of a war or capital punishment is somehow less difficult, morally
>>>  > speaking, to make than a similar decision about the taking a human 
>>>life
>>>in
>>>  > the context of an abortion? If so, I'm missing the argument. There 
>>>are
>>>  > difficulties all across the board.
>>>  >
>>>  > The legal/political question is clear in each case: Who is to decide,
>>>you
>>>  > or the State?
>>>  >
>>>  > Hope that you are well!
>>>  >
>>>  > Best, Joe
>>>  >
>>>  > ---- Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > =============
>>>  > Saundra, capital punishment will VERY RARELY result in the 
>>>unjustified
>>>  > killing of the innocent.  Abortion results in the unjustified killing
>>>of
>>>  > the
>>>  > innocent EVERY SINGLE TIME!
>>>  >
>>>  > It really is time you began standing up for what is RIGHT.
>>>  >
>>>  > -T
>>>  > ----- Original Message -----
>>>  > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
>>>  > To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>>  > Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>  > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:09 PM
>>>  > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >> Tony wrote:
>>>  >> "The death penalty results in the JUSTIFIED killing of the GUILTY."
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Well, at best, that's only partially correct.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> A more correct statement would be:
>>>  >> The death penalty MAY result in the killing of the guilty, but 
>>>because
>>>of
>>>  >> the inherent fallibility of any judicial system, it also results in
>>>the
>>>  >> UNJUSTIFIED killing of the INNOCENT.
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >> HTH,
>>>  >> Saundra Lund
>>>  >> Moscow, ID
>>>  >>
>>>  >> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people 
>>>to
>>>do
>>>  >> nothing.
>>>  >> - Edmund Burke
>>>  >>
>>>  >> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra
>>>Lund.
>>>  >> Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020
>>>forum
>>>  >> without the express written permission of the author.*****
>>>  >>
>>>  >> -----Original Message-----
>>>  >> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>>  >> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>>>  >> On Behalf Of Tony
>>>  >> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:59 PM
>>>  >> To: Tom Hansen
>>>  >> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>  >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Tom, you seem to be having considerable difficulty with what is 
>>>really
>>>a
>>>  >> very simple concept.  If you would pay more than your usual degree 
>>>of
>>>  >> attention, I will promise to go slow.......
>>>  >>
>>>  >> The death penalty results in the JUSTIFIED killing of the GUILTY.
>>>  >> Abortion
>>>  >> results in the UNJUSTIFIED killing of the INNOCENT.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Did you get that, or should I arrange for some remedial courses?
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Helping the intellectually challenged,  -T
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
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