[Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!

Thu Oct 26 21:37:07 PDT 2006

ZING!  and the arrow strikes smack in the middle of the target!  Good one!

J  :]

>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>To: tonytime at clearwire.net, joekc at adelphia.net
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 21:05:37 -0700
>
>Wouldn't it be wonderful if the avowedly pro-life were in favor of things
>that sustain and nurture human life AFTER birth?
>
>A "seamless garment" of pro-life concern includes opposition to abortion
>(not necessarily support for law, but support for a culture shift), as well
>as a reverence for the lives of poor children, disabled children, school
>children, children of undocumented workers, incarcerated people, sick
>people, poor people, elderly people, and all people until the time of
>natural death.  Trouble is, I hardly ever see an emphasis from "pro-life"
>people on anything other than fetal life . . .
>
>keely
>
>
>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:57:42 -0700
>
>Joe, instances in which an abortion is the only alternative to losing the
>mother are EXTREMELY rare.  I think you know that this is a red herring.
>
>As far as killing a child to preclude potential future suffering.... that 
>is
>not a justification I would ever want to be in a position of supporting.
>What of a physically healthy child born into extreme poverty or an abusive
>home?  Should we snuff them out as well?  Joe, you are engaging in
>intellectual twister in an effort to rationalize what your heart must be
>telling you is horribly wrong.  You have been conned by our culture of
>death.
>
>   It is not too late for you to assert your instincts, dispense with the
>straitjacket of liberal orthodoxy and STAND UP FOR LIFE!
>
>Best,  -T
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:01 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>
>
>  > Dear Tony,
>  >
>  > Sorry my dear friend but you are mistaken. There are in fact a 
>multitude
>  > of justifications for particular abortions: the mother's life is in
>  > danger, the child is destined to have a short life yet suffer a great
>  > deal, etc.
>  >
>  > Are you suggesting that the decision to take a human life in the 
>context
>  > of a war or capital punishment is somehow less difficult, morally
>  > speaking, to make than a similar decision about the taking a human life
>in
>  > the context of an abortion? If so, I'm missing the argument. There are
>  > difficulties all across the board.
>  >
>  > The legal/political question is clear in each case: Who is to decide, 
>you
>  > or the State?
>  >
>  > Hope that you are well!
>  >
>  > Best, Joe
>  >
>  > ---- Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:
>  >
>  > =============
>  > Saundra, capital punishment will VERY RARELY result in the unjustified
>  > killing of the innocent.  Abortion results in the unjustified killing 
>of
>  > the
>  > innocent EVERY SINGLE TIME!
>  >
>  > It really is time you began standing up for what is RIGHT.
>  >
>  > -T
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
>  > To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>  > Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>  > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:09 PM
>  > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>  >
>  >
>  >> Tony wrote:
>  >> "The death penalty results in the JUSTIFIED killing of the GUILTY."
>  >>
>  >> Well, at best, that's only partially correct.
>  >>
>  >> A more correct statement would be:
>  >> The death penalty MAY result in the killing of the guilty, but because
>of
>  >> the inherent fallibility of any judicial system, it also results in 
>the
>  >> UNJUSTIFIED killing of the INNOCENT.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> HTH,
>  >> Saundra Lund
>  >> Moscow, ID
>  >>
>  >> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to
>do
>  >> nothing.
>  >> - Edmund Burke
>  >>
>  >> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra
>Lund.
>  >> Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020
>forum
>  >> without the express written permission of the author.*****
>  >>
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>  >> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>  >> On Behalf Of Tony
>  >> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:59 PM
>  >> To: Tom Hansen
>  >> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>  >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
>  >>
>  >> Tom, you seem to be having considerable difficulty with what is really 
>a
>  >> very simple concept.  If you would pay more than your usual degree of
>  >> attention, I will promise to go slow.......
>  >>
>  >> The death penalty results in the JUSTIFIED killing of the GUILTY.
>  >> Abortion
>  >> results in the UNJUSTIFIED killing of the INNOCENT.
>  >>
>  >> Did you get that, or should I arrange for some remedial courses?
>  >>
>  >> Helping the intellectually challenged,  -T
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >
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