[Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!

[keely emerinemix]

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the avowedly pro-life were in favor of things 
that sustain and nurture human life AFTER birth?

A "seamless garment" of pro-life concern includes opposition to abortion 
(not necessarily support for law, but support for a culture shift), as well 
as a reverence for the lives of poor children, disabled children, school 
children, children of undocumented workers, incarcerated people, sick 
people, poor people, elderly people, and all people until the time of 
natural death.  Trouble is, I hardly ever see an emphasis from "pro-life" 
people on anything other than fetal life . . .

keely


From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:57:42 -0700

Joe, instances in which an abortion is the only alternative to losing the
mother are EXTREMELY rare.  I think you know that this is a red herring.

As far as killing a child to preclude potential future suffering.... that is
not a justification I would ever want to be in a position of supporting.
What of a physically healthy child born into extreme poverty or an abusive
home?  Should we snuff them out as well?  Joe, you are engaging in
intellectual twister in an effort to rationalize what your heart must be
telling you is horribly wrong.  You have been conned by our culture of
death.

  It is not too late for you to assert your instincts, dispense with the
straitjacket of liberal orthodoxy and STAND UP FOR LIFE!

Best,  -T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!


 > Dear Tony,
 >
 > Sorry my dear friend but you are mistaken. There are in fact a multitude
 > of justifications for particular abortions: the mother's life is in
 > danger, the child is destined to have a short life yet suffer a great
 > deal, etc.
 >
 > Are you suggesting that the decision to take a human life in the context
 > of a war or capital punishment is somehow less difficult, morally
 > speaking, to make than a similar decision about the taking a human life 
in
 > the context of an abortion? If so, I'm missing the argument. There are
 > difficulties all across the board.
 >
 > The legal/political question is clear in each case: Who is to decide, you
 > or the State?
 >
 > Hope that you are well!
 >
 > Best, Joe
 >
 > ---- Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:
 >
 > =============
 > Saundra, capital punishment will VERY RARELY result in the unjustified
 > killing of the innocent.  Abortion results in the unjustified killing of
 > the
 > innocent EVERY SINGLE TIME!
 >
 > It really is time you began standing up for what is RIGHT.
 >
 > -T
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at adelphia.net>
 > To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
 > Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
 > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:09 PM
 > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
 >
 >
 >> Tony wrote:
 >> "The death penalty results in the JUSTIFIED killing of the GUILTY."
 >>
 >> Well, at best, that's only partially correct.
 >>
 >> A more correct statement would be:
 >> The death penalty MAY result in the killing of the guilty, but because 
of
 >> the inherent fallibility of any judicial system, it also results in the
 >> UNJUSTIFIED killing of the INNOCENT.
 >>
 >>
 >> HTH,
 >> Saundra Lund
 >> Moscow, ID
 >>
 >> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to 
do
 >> nothing.
 >> - Edmund Burke
 >>
 >> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2006, Saundra 
Lund.
 >> Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 
forum
 >> without the express written permission of the author.*****
 >>
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
 >> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
 >> On Behalf Of Tony
 >> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:59 PM
 >> To: Tom Hansen
 >> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
 >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The death penalty....a deterent!!!!!
 >>
 >> Tom, you seem to be having considerable difficulty with what is really a
 >> very simple concept.  If you would pay more than your usual degree of
 >> attention, I will promise to go slow.......
 >>
 >> The death penalty results in the JUSTIFIED killing of the GUILTY.
 >> Abortion
 >> results in the UNJUSTIFIED killing of the INNOCENT.
 >>
 >> Did you get that, or should I arrange for some remedial courses?
 >>
 >> Helping the intellectually challenged,  -T
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >
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