[Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
Tony
tonytime at clearwire.net
Wed Oct 25 14:50:53 PDT 2006
Scott, you seem a bit hysterical with regard to the subject under discussion. Same sex "marriage" is NOT about consenting adults. It is about society sanctioning and celebrating an inapprpriate and unhealthy activity. People consent to engage in all manner of behaviors. This does not necessarily recommend them. You may accuse me of blathering all you want Dredge, but your in over your head on this one.
Now go pay closer attention. -T
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Dredge
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
Same sex marriage is about consenting adults. Tony does not understand this which is why he brings orthogonal topics of non-consenting non-adults into the picture like pedophilia and bestiality. Tony is all over the map with his counter blathering.
On topic, the New Jersey Supreme Court opened the door to same sex marriages today. Full story for Tony to read at:
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/gays_and_lesbians
-Scott
----- Original Message ----
From: david sarff <davesway at hotmail.com>
To: tonytime at clearwire.net; london at moscow.com
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:07:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
Is this a subject about consenting adults?
D. Sarff
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>Same Sex Marriage Debate ReleaseBill, you submit that pedophilia is not
>comparable to homosexuality in as much as the former is learned perverse
>behavior, while the latter is innate at birth. I do not believe this to be
>the case and feel it was a mistake to amend the D.S.M. to reflect your more
>politically correct view.
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>Best, -T
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill London
> To: Tony
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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> T-
> First, I am glad that you agree that homosexuality is "natural" in the
>sense of God-given or innate (not learned or taught).
> However, your comparison of homosexuality and pedophilia is a comparison
>of apples and oranges. Pedophilia is a learned perverse behavior, accepted
>as a mental disease--not an innate sexuality.
> Since homosexuality is an innate God-given attribute, why punish
>homosexuals by refusing them the legal right to marry?
> BL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony
> To: Bill London
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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> Bill, you make the very discerning observation that homosexuality is
>natural in that these folks were born that way. Quite true, that is why I
>prefer the term inappropriate to best describe them. Pedophilia is also
>natural by your definition - as is bestiality. But surely you are not
>advocating the public sanction of these activities as well? Our respective
>genetalia, male and female, were obviously designed to interact for the
>purposes of procreation. That there are occasional mix ups in our
>development in the womb, does not mean that we should nurture and cater to
>these misdevelopements. Some characteristic can be quite "natural" yet
>entirely to be opposed and possibly remedied. If I were born with a faulty
>heart valve, would you argue that I should embrace my present condition or
>seek to address it so that my body might function as it was intended?
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> Have a good Sunday, -T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill London
> To: Tony
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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> take off your blinders and you will note that homosexuality is quite
>natural. Homosexuals are inherently, at the core of their being,
>homosexual. They were wired that way, just as others were wired as
>heterosexual.
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> I just think, given the obvious complex nature of brains and bodies
>and identities, that human sexuality is a continuum from absolutely hetero
>to absolutely homosexual. It's all natural. And it's only fair that we
>allow the law to recognize marriage between loving couples.
> BL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony
> To: Bill London
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.
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> Bill, why would anyone bother attending a debate on such a
>completely unnatural and patently inappropriate concept as "gay marriage"?
>There is, and never will be, any such thing. Marriage was and always will
>be between a male and female for the purposes of providing a stable
>environment for the raising of offspring. Must we continue to patronize
>these maladjusted freaks who would pervert society to reflect their own
>warped perspectives?
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> -Tony
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill London
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:55 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage DebateTONIGHT!
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> ASUI to host Same Sex Marriage Debate on Oct. 20th
> Moscow, ID - ASUI Vandal Entertainment will be hosting "Same
>Sex Marriage: A Civil Debate" on October 20th, 2006 at 8pm in the SUB
>Ballroom. This event will feature two speakers: Glenn Stanton and John
>Corvino who are two opposing voices on this issue. They plan on bring
>clarity and civility to this otherwise divisive topic.
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> For more information about these speakers visit their
>website:
>http://www.kirklandproductions.com/ARTISTS/Same_Sex_Marriage_Debate-bio.html
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> ASUI Vandal Entertainment has chosen to host this event in
>order to increase awareness about this sometimes-controversial subject. We
>do not take a position, but instead encourage students to learn and enrich
>their experience at the University of Idaho by taking advantage of
>attending such events. There will be 800 tickets available to the public.
>Ticket prices will be $1 for UI Undergraduate Students and $2 for all
>others. They are available for purchase at the UI SUB Info desk and there
>is a limit of four tickets per person.
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> Based on available space, we will be providing the opportunity
>for student organizations to host an informational table outside of the SUB
>on the evening of the event. If there are more than ten groups interested
>in hosting a table, we will choose ten groups randomly from a lottery. If
>you are interested in having an informational table at this event, please
>email me at katien at sub.uidaho.edu with (1) name, (2) title of organization,
>and (3) contact information if chosen to host a table. There will be no
>costs associated with hosting a table at this event.
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> ASUI Vandal Entertainment is part of the Associated Students
>of the University of Idaho. They have sponsored recent lecture/performing
>arts events such as Mythbusters, Jon Reep, Rob Corddry and NBC's Last Comic
>Standing Josh Blue. ASUI Vandal Entertainment also sponsors large
>concerts, films, small concerts and more. For more information about
>upcoming ASUI Vandal Entertainment events, visit
>www.asui.uidaho.edu/vandalentertainment.
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