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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Scott, you seem a bit hysterical with regard to the
subject under discussion. Same sex "marriage" is NOT about consenting
adults. It is about society sanctioning and celebrating an inapprpriate
and unhealthy activity. People consent to engage in all manner of
behaviors. This does not necessarily recommend them. You may accuse
me of blathering all you want Dredge, but your in over your head on this
one.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now go pay closer attention. -T</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=sdredge@yahoo.com href="mailto:sdredge@yahoo.com">Scott Dredge</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:21
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex
Marriage Debate pointless.</DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif">Same
sex marriage is about consenting adults. Tony does not understand this
which is why he brings orthogonal topics of non-consenting non-adults into the
picture like pedophilia and bestiality. Tony is all over the map with
his counter blathering.<BR><BR>On topic, the New Jersey Supreme Court opened
the door to same sex marriages today. Full story for Tony to read
at:<BR><SPAN><A href="http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/gays_and_lesbians"
target=_blank>http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/gays_and_lesbians</A></SPAN><BR><BR>-Scott<BR><BR>
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Original Message ----<BR>From: david sarff <davesway@hotmail.com><BR>To:
tonytime@clearwire.net; london@moscow.com<BR>Cc:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:07:07
PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.<BR><BR>
<DIV><BR>Is this a subject about consenting adults?<BR>D.
Sarff<BR><BR><BR>><BR>>Same Sex Marriage Debate ReleaseBill, you submit
that pedophilia is not <BR>>comparable to homosexuality in as much as the
former is learned perverse <BR>>behavior, while the latter is innate at
birth. I do not believe this to be <BR>>the case and feel it was
a mistake to amend the D.S.M. to reflect your more <BR>>politically correct
view.<BR>><BR>>Best, -T<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: Bill
London<BR>> To: Tony<BR>> Cc:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:37
AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate
pointless.<BR>><BR>><BR>> T-<BR>> First, I
am glad that you agree that homosexuality is "natural" in the <BR>>sense of
God-given or innate (not learned or taught).<BR>> However, your
comparison of homosexuality and pedophilia is a comparison <BR>>of apples
and oranges. Pedophilia is a learned perverse behavior, accepted
<BR>>as a mental disease--not an innate sexuality.<BR>>
Since homosexuality is an innate God-given attribute, why punish
<BR>>homosexuals by refusing them the legal right to
marry?<BR>> BL<BR>> ----- Original
Message -----<BR>> From:
Tony<BR>> To: Bill
London<BR>> Cc:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Sent: Saturday, October
21, 2006 5:55 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Same Sex Marriage Debate
pointless.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Bill, you make the
very discerning observation that homosexuality is <BR>>natural in that
these folks were born that way. Quite true, that is why I
<BR>>prefer the term inappropriate to best describe
them. Pedophilia is also <BR>>natural by your definition - as is
bestiality. But surely you are not <BR>>advocating the public
sanction of these activities as well? Our respective
<BR>>genetalia, male and female, were obviously designed to interact for
the <BR>>purposes of procreation. That there are occasional mix
ups in our <BR>>development in the womb, does not mean that we should
nurture and cater to <BR>>these misdevelopements. Some
characteristic can be quite "natural" yet <BR>>entirely to be opposed and
possibly remedied. If I were born with a faulty <BR>>heart
valve, would you argue that I should embrace my present condition or
<BR>>seek to address it so that my body might function as it was
intended?<BR>><BR>> Have a good
Sunday, -T<BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> From: Bill
London<BR>> To:
Tony<BR>> Cc:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Sent:
Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:05 PM<BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate
pointless.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
T-<BR>> take off your blinders and you
will note that homosexuality is quite <BR>>natural. Homosexuals
are inherently, at the core of their being,
<BR>>homosexual. They were wired that way, just as others were
wired as
<BR>>heterosexual.<BR>><BR>> I
just think, given the obvious complex nature of brains and bodies <BR>>and
identities, that human sexuality is a continuum from absolutely hetero
<BR>>to absolutely homosexual. It's all natural. And
it's only fair that we <BR>>allow the law to recognize marriage between
loving couples.<BR>>
BL<BR>> ----- Original
Message -----<BR>> From:
Tony<BR>> To: Bill
London<BR>> Cc:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:01
PM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage Debate
pointless.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
Bill, why would anyone bother attending a debate on such a <BR>>completely
unnatural and patently inappropriate concept as "gay
marriage"? <BR>>There is, and never will be, any such
thing. Marriage was and always will <BR>>be between a male and
female for the purposes of providing a stable <BR>>environment for the
raising of offspring. Must we continue to patronize <BR>>these
maladjusted freaks who would pervert society to reflect their own
<BR>>warped
perspectives?<BR>><BR>>
-Tony<BR>>
----- Original Message
-----<BR>>
From: Bill
London<BR>> To:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:55
PM<BR>>
Subject: [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage
DebateTONIGHT!<BR>><BR>><BR>>
ASUI to host Same Sex Marriage Debate on Oct.
20th<BR>>
Moscow, ID - ASUI Vandal Entertainment will be hosting "Same <BR>>Sex
Marriage: A Civil Debate" on October 20th, 2006 at 8pm in the SUB
<BR>>Ballroom. This event will feature two speakers: Glenn
Stanton and John <BR>>Corvino who are two opposing voices on this
issue. They plan on bring <BR>>clarity and civility to this
otherwise divisive
topic.<BR>><BR>> For
more information about these speakers visit their <BR>>website: <BR>><A
href="http://www.kirklandproductions.com/ARTISTS/Same_Sex_Marriage_Debate-bio.html"
target=_blank>http://www.kirklandproductions.com/ARTISTS/Same_Sex_Marriage_Debate-bio.html</A><BR>><BR>>
ASUI Vandal Entertainment has chosen to host this event in <BR>>order to
increase awareness about this sometimes-controversial subject. We
<BR>>do not take a position, but instead encourage students to learn and
enrich <BR>>their experience at the University of Idaho by taking advantage
of <BR>>attending such events. There will be 800 tickets
available to the public. <BR>>Ticket prices will be $1 for UI
Undergraduate Students and $2 for all <BR>>others. They are
available for purchase at the UI SUB Info desk and there <BR>>is a limit of
four tickets per
person.<BR>><BR>>
Based on available space, we will be providing the opportunity <BR>>for
student organizations to host an informational table outside of the SUB
<BR>>on the evening of the event. If there are more than ten
groups interested <BR>>in hosting a table, we will choose ten groups
randomly from a lottery. If <BR>>you are interested in having an
informational table at this event, please <BR>>email me at
katien@sub.uidaho.edu with (1) name, (2) title of organization, <BR>>and
(3) contact information if chosen to host a table. There will be no
<BR>>costs associated with hosting a table at this
event.<BR>><BR>>
ASUI Vandal Entertainment is part of the Associated Students <BR>>of the
University of Idaho. They have sponsored recent lecture/performing
<BR>>arts events such as Mythbusters, Jon Reep, Rob Corddry and NBC's Last
Comic <BR>>Standing Josh Blue. ASUI Vandal Entertainment also
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