[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Same Sex Marriage Debate pointless.

[Paul Rumelhart]

So call them "Civil Unions", make them cover the secular aspects of 
"marriage" (such as death benefits, tax  breaks, etc), and make them 
relatively wide open for people to get.  Make it a policy that a 
"marriage" performed in the normal way automatically carries with it a 
"civil union".  Don't force any religion to have to marry two people of 
the same gender if it's against their doctrine to do so.  Limit civil 
unions to one per person and make them easy to stop when both parties 
agree on it.  The civil union would be a contract that would carry with 
it specific terms agreed upon by both parties on what it covers and how 
it may be dissolved.  In a way, it's just a more forceful prenuptual 
agreement.

Let two people of the same gender get a civil union if they want to.  
That way those who don't think it's a valid marriage shouldn't mind - 
they aren't married before any god in a spiritual sense, yet they get 
the same secular benefits that everyone else does.  Churches that don't 
have hangups about it can perform gay marriages, those that do can still 
feel huffily superior.

The only way to get through this in my view is to separate the civil 
from the spiritual.

Paul

Tony wrote:

> Bill, why would anyone bother attending a debate on such a completely 
> unnatural and patently inappropriate concept as "gay marriage"?  There 
> is, and never will be, any such thing.  Marriage was and always will 
> be between a male and female for the purposes of providing a stable 
> environment for the raising of offspring.  Must we continue to 
> patronize these maladjusted freaks who would pervert society to 
> reflect their own warped perspectives?
>  
> -Tony
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Bill London <mailto:london at moscow.com>
>     *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2006 2:55 PM
>     *Subject:* [Vision2020] Same Sex Marriage DebateTONIGHT!
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>     *ASUI to host Same Sex Marriage Debate on Oct. 20th*
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>         /Moscow//, ID// - /ASUI Vandal Entertainment will be hosting
>         "Same Sex Marriage: A Civil Debate" on October 20^th , 2006 at
>         8pm in the SUB Ballroom.  This event will feature two
>         speakers: Glenn Stanton and John Corvino who are two opposing
>         voices on this issue.  They plan on bring clarity and civility
>         to this otherwise divisive topic.
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>          For more information about these speakers visit their
>         website:
>         http://www.kirklandproductions.com/ARTISTS/Same_Sex_Marriage_Debate-bio.html
>
>         ASUI Vandal Entertainment has chosen to host this event in
>         order to increase awareness about this sometimes-controversial
>         subject.  We do not take a position, but instead encourage
>         students to learn and enrich their experience at the
>         University of Idaho by taking advantage of attending such
>         events.  There will be 800 tickets available to the public. 
>         Ticket prices will be $1 for UI Undergraduate Students and $2
>         for all others.  They are available for purchase at the UI SUB
>         Info desk and there is a limit of four tickets per person.
>
>         Based on available space, we will be providing the opportunity
>         for student organizations to host an informational table
>         outside of the SUB on the evening of the event.  If there are
>         more than ten groups interested in hosting a table, we will
>         choose ten groups randomly from a lottery.  If you are
>         interested in having an informational table at this event,
>         please email me at katien at sub.uidaho.edu
>         <mailto:katien at sub.uidaho.edu> with (1) name, (2) title of
>         organization, and (3) contact information if chosen to host a
>         table.  There will be no costs associated with hosting a table
>         at this event.
>
>         ASUI Vandal Entertainment is part of the Associated Students
>         of the University of Idaho. They have sponsored recent
>         lecture/performing arts events such as Mythbusters, Jon Reep,
>         Rob Corddry and NBC's Last Comic Standing Josh Blue.  ASUI
>         Vandal Entertainment also sponsors large concerts, films,
>         small concerts and more. For more information about upcoming
>         ASUI Vandal Entertainment events, visit
>         www.asui.uidaho.edu/vandalentertainment
>         <http://www.asui.uidaho.edu/vandalentertainment>.
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