[Vision2020] Civilized Nations Abolish the Death Penalty

[keely emerinemix]

Could it be that Nick finds bad conduct on the part of his country 
disturbing precisely BECAUSE he believes in its higher ideals?  That just 
maybe he's grateful to be a citizen of a country that not only permits 
criticism but is strengthened by it -- and that history will likely testify 
to the righteousness of Nick's belief, just as future generations will 
testify to the benefits of eliminating what Nick and myself and others 
believe to be barbaric?

Nick Gier is no carping old subversive, but if one's character is defined by 
his enemies, I might recommend that he find a way to include your saying so 
on his curriculum vitae, thus making a true gentleman and a scholar even 
more worthy of respect and admiration.

keely


From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Civilized Nations Abolish the Death Penalty
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:03:00 -0700

NICK, if you find your own country so uncivilized, why the hell don't you
give patriotic Americans a break and immigrate?  Your lack of gratitude is
loathsome.  What a carping old subversive you have degenerated into.

-Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Civilized Nations Abolish the Death Penalty


 > World Day Against the Death Penalty Marked Throughout Europe
 >
 > At a joint press conference held by the European Commission (EC) and the
 > Council of Europe, Vice-President Franco Frattini of the EC stated that
 > "the administration of State killing via the judicial system serves no
 > useful purpose in preventing crime but can have a brutalising effect on
 > societies that inflict it".
 >
 > There are at present 128 countries that are abolitionist in law and
 > practice. Over 40 countries have abolished the death penalty for all
 > crimes since 1990. They include countries in Africa (recent examples
 > include Liberia, Côte d'Ivoire), the Americas (Canada, Paraguay, 
Mexico),
 > Asia and the Pacific (Philippines, Bhutan, Samoa) and Europe and Central
 > Asia (Armenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Cyprus, Serbia and Montenegro, Turkey,
 > Turkmenistan). In 2005, countries having abolished death penalty were 86,
 > while in 1977, only 16 countries were abolitionist.
 >
 > When will the U. S. join the ranks of civilized nations by not only
 > abolishing the death penalty but following international law?
 >
 > Nick Gier
 >
 >
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