[Vision2020] [Vision2020) DEATH TO VERMIN!

[g. crabtree]

So, just exactly what is your methodology for tabulating the murders that 
did not occur because the "perp" was deterred by the thought of being put to 
death for his or her crime? Its a given that there will be sociopaths who 
will disregard all but their own urges and kill and for them the death 
penalty will have no meaning but how can you measure that which didn't 
happen? The idea that a person who was angry or disgruntled and never had a 
second thought or change of heart because the idea of sitting on death row 
was off putting is indemonstrable and unlikely. How do you conduct a 
reliable poll in which you ask people "How many people would you have killed 
were it not for the likelihood you would be put to death?" Once you come up 
with an answer to that I'll lend some credence to your "Wasn't a deterrent 
then, isn't now." observation.

gc
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Vision2020) DEATH TO VERMIN!


> The Death Penalty was not totally taken out of the picture until about 
> 1972;
>  so, it was in effect during such cases as the "Boston Strangler", "The
> Manson Cases", even as far back as the "Lindberg Kidnapping".
>
> Wasn't a deterrent then, isn't now.
>
> I do agree there are some people we simply can not have on the streets
> anymore - Duncan and Coe and Sitler being a few - but the Death Penalty is
> not the cure-all that ToKnee seems to think it is.  If people have no
> respect for life, having a law that dictates that death is the ultimate
> price they will pay if they violate the life of another, is NOT going to
> matter to the perp - ANY perp.
>
> Having the Death Penalty on the table only guarantees that the convicted
> will NEVER be able to get out of jail.  Works for me.
>
> J  :]
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>To: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Vision2020) DEATH TO VERMIN!
>>Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:27:00 -0700
>>
>>Andreas, you ask that I support my contention that executing a man 
>>prevents
>>him from killing others in the future.  If I may:  When a man is executed,
>>his heart stops beating, making predatory behavior difficult to engage in.
>>Further, his other organ systems stop functioning as well at the point of
>>execution, thus causing decomposition.  A moldering corpse, Andreas, is a
>>threat to no one.
>>
>>Hope this helps with your confusion,    -Tony
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>>To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>Cc: <whayman at adelphia.net>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:10 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Vision2020) DEATH TO VERMIN!
>>
>>
>> > On 10/14/06, Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:
>> >> Actually whayman, killing sociopathic predators does indeed, in a very
>> >> real
>> >> sense, bring someone back.  By acting as a deterrent to future
>>aggression
>> >> and rendering the problem of recidivism moot, capital punishment would
>> >> preempt thousands of innocent deaths annually.
>> >>
>> >> Until you are able to muster the courage to dispense with predatory
>> >> vermin
>> >> such as Duncan, you will continue to be part of the problem.
>> >>
>> >> Frustrated by the lily-livered left,  -T
>> >
>> > T --
>> >
>> > Care to provide any data whatsoever to back this up?
>> >
>> > -- ACS
>> >
>>
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