[Vision2020] Scandals

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 7 09:06:46 PDT 2006


I'd actually classify myself as an independent right now.  The Dem/Rep 
lines are too close in certain areas and differ too much in some areas I 
could care less about. 

It seems to me that the sides are even, if what this article said is 
true.  Dems play their card that they have been sitting on for a while.  
Reps cut their losses.  Why take it any farther? 

Just to be clear, I condemn the behavior of sitting on something like 
this because of political motivations.  Whether it was democrats waiting 
for the right time to strike or republicans that were trying to avoid a 
scandal, I condemn it.  Obviously, I also condemn the behavior of trying 
to come on to underage pages.  I just think pushing it farther in the 
political arena is a waste of resources.

Funny that we're talking about trust here when discussing an article 
that claims to have information on a subject but doesn't actually 
present it as fact.  Trusting innuendo and gossip isn't much better than 
whatever trusting you are accusing me of.  I have a naive wish to go 
along with my naive ability to trust, though: I wish the people we 
elected into office would spend 1/10th the amount of time they spend on 
political maneuvering on actually trying to make this country a better 
place.

Paul

g. crabtree wrote:

> Spoken like a trusting Democrat. I agree about the creepy & stupid 
> part but, if the DNC or democrat operatives were aware of this 
> situation months or even years earlier and waited till six weeks out 
> from the mid terms to spring the nasty news for the advantage it would 
> bring then I think that that has its own stink of nastiness (if not 
> criminality) and deserves to be made public.
>
> gc
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Rumelhart" 
> <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Scandals
>
>
>> So responding in sexually-explicit ways to an underage staffer is
>> somehow ok if it's really a joke that's being played on you?  How is
>> this an improvement?  Now he's both creepy and stupid at the same time.
>>
>> Anyway, he's resigned.  That should be the end of it as far as I'm
>> concerned, at least from a political standpoint.  This arguing about who
>> knew what should stop.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Pat Kraut wrote:
>>
>>> On the front page of the local newspaper tonight there is talk of
>>> scandals...but what scandal?
>>> This is from a blog and makes me question who started this and what 
>>> and when
>>> did they know??
>>> Foleys a slime, no question but what is the rest of the story?? 
>>> Dirty tricks
>>> to change the election?? I think dems should be put under oath also.
>>>
>>> After the Frenzy
>>> 10/05 03:13 PM
>>> This is why it pays to wait and get more facts before joining the 
>>> chorus of
>>> pundits and operatives demanding resignations.  I will revisit this 
>>> later.
>>> XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX
>>>
>>> CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
>>> **World Exclusive**
>>> **Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**
>>>
>>> According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan 
>>> Edmund,
>>> the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the
>>> resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by 
>>> mistake got
>>> into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can 
>>> reveal.
>>>
>>> According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well,
>>> Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded Foley to type embarrassing
>>> comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill 
>>> politicos.
>>> The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of
>>> political operatives favorable to Democrats. This source, an ally of 
>>> Edmund,
>>> also adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. 
>>> The prank
>>> scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund.
>>>
>>> The news come on the heels that former FBI Chief Louis Freeh has 
>>> been named
>>> to investigate the mess.
>>>
>>> Developing...
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