[Vision2020] Wives and their place in the "Future Men's Club" scene

[J Ford]

The following is a reflection, directly and indirectly, of the teachings of 
Dougie-BOY on what makes a husband and what makes a wife.  I am presenting 
it EXACTLY as it was written, on Feb 6, 2005:

"two weeks ago, he (Doug) taught on masculinity. that it is a term that is 
relative to the relationship. I, as a husband and soon father, am masculine 
in relation to my wife, my child and my dog, but i must be feminine in my 
relationship with my church, my school, my boss, my landlord, and the state. 
this doesn't mean that i am to be effiminate (femininity manifested wrongly) 
in any relationship. similarly, my wife is also feminine in the same 
relationships that i am, but she is also femine in her relationship with me 
(and only me, being a woman doesn't mean you are to submit to all men, you 
are to submit to one man: your father, then, when she gets married, her 
headship is transferred to her husband...no one else). She is masculine in 
her relationship to our children, our dog, to students she might be teaching 
in a class, etc.

before this gets too confusing, masculinity is characterized by initiation, 
leadership, responsibility, and sacrifice. femininity is manifested in 
submission, responsiveness, gratitude, and obedience."



Kinda telling that he refuses to use any capitals....but, that's for a Psych 
class to go over.

I find it particularly repugnant that Hicks/Dougie-BOY would demand that 
women have "her ***headship*** transferred" when she marries.  Who the 
bloody h**l said she had any kind of "headship" in the guise of a man, in 
the beginning?  A father is not a "leader of the country that is called 
women" and women should not be "transferred" to her 'husband' as if we still 
lived in the Middle Ages.

And IF "masculinity is characterized by initiation, leadership, 
responsibility and sacrifice"...when can we be seeing ANY of that type of 
thing coming from the Future Men's Club of Christ Church?  The only ones 
sacrificing ANYthing are the women - who seemingly are sacrificing their 
freedom- repeatedly.

I so have a question for you Hicks BOYS and Dougie-BOY...just what happens 
if a women decides not to be submissive, show gratitude or be obedient?  I 
mean, since it appears that you be still living in the Middle Ages, does 
this mean you practice the "art" of beating your wives into what you want 
them to be like?  And just how would she be going about showing you any of 
these "traits"?  Is it you who decides what constitutes a "show of 
gratitude", for instance?  And at what level does it need being to be 
displeasing to you?

And if a women finds herself without a "man" about, due to divorce or death 
or plain and simple CHOICE, what then?  Do the "men" of CC take that 
"headship" over for her, wanted or not?  Or do you foist that unto whatever 
male child may be in the home?  Do you seriously believe a two year old or a 
12 year old boy is capable of being the "Head of Household" over his mother?

After having experienced it on more than one occasion, first hand, I realize 
you feel like the "camp" of the "Future Men's Club Camp" is supposed to be 
used to show the boys just what a man is like.  Personally, after the boys 
got back from that torture camp and after spending weeks trying to undo the 
damage you all did, the only thing I see you producing is boys trying to 
wear their daddy's pants and finding them too big a fit even with a belt.  
And funny this is, Dougie-BOY wasn't even there!  Jamin and Sitler were, 
though.

Guess he felt he'd learned all he could so why bother?

Guess again, Dough-Boy...em, sorry - that's Dougie-BOY.

J  :]

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