[Vision2020] A Pledge to real Americans (Mikey Moore)

[Tony]

If you folks got so worked up on behalf of the innocent VICTIMS of crime, we could dramatically reduce the human suffering on this planet overnight.

Tom, the death penalty as administered is a mockery.  It should be called the sit on death row for two decades at taxpayers expense penalty.  That aside, there will in any system be mistakes-- the fact that in very rare cases an innocent may be executed, does not invalidate said system.  To argue otherwise is to oppose ANY system or program administered by fallible humans.

Further Tom, juries are human, and I am NOT opposed to the appeal system, never said I was, ya'll just assumed again -- what I said was that I was opposed to ENDLESS appeals, one after another after another, until the perp has to show up in court in a walker and depends.  This should be plain, why do you seem to have such difficulty comprehending it?

So what do you think?  White Christmas?           -T
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Hansen 
  To: 'Tony' ; 'Paul Rumelhart' 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 6:11 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] A Pledge to real Americans (Mikey Moore)


  1)  ToeKnee stated:

   

  "A very SMALL percentage have been exonerated through DNA testing.  Any system of justice administered by fallible humans will have a percentage of failures."

   

  Thank you, ToeKnee, for a short, but virtually unopposable, viewpoint against the death penalty.

   

  2)  ToeKnee goes on . . .

   

  "If public defenders get paid whether they do the right thing or advocate on behalf of societies least social members well beyond the point of fairness or reason, then they need to be regulated, because it is NOT their job to second guess a jury endlessly."

   

  But then, aren't all juries human? (See ToeKnee's statement #1 above)

   

  I suppose then, ToeKnee, that you strongly support quick and simple plea agreements between the prosecutor and the public defender, regardless of the accused's guilt or innocence?  This debate sounds very, very familiar.  Didn't we, a while back, discuss the extensive plea agreement history of one of our own local public defenders, whose initials are G. D.?

   

  This thread is getting rather interesting.  Please continue . . .

   

  Tom Hansen

  Moscow, Idaho

   

    "Uh, how about a 1-strike law. Death doesn't seem too extreme for a Level-3 sex offender."

    - Dale "Comb-Over" Courtney (August 3, 2005)


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