[Vision2020] A Pledge to real Americans (Mikey Moore)

[Paul Rumelhart]

Tony,

I wish we lived in a world where the guilty were "obviously guilty" and 
where no one was ever framed by a bunch of "good old boys".  
Unfortunately, we don't live there.  How many people have been found to 
be innocent via dna testing of the charges that ultimately ended up with 
them being executed?

The best we can do is have each side work as hard as they can, despite 
what they may or may not believe about their clients innocence, in 
presenting their case and have the court system decide.

The statues of the blind lady with the scales in courthouses?  There is 
a reason she is blind.  She doesn't get swayed by the media, the color 
of the defendants skin, or how obvious the situation looks on the surface.

Besides, public defenders get paid whether they submit appeals or play 
minesweeper.  Why not let them do their jobs without berating them about it?

Paul

Tony wrote:

>Sunil, I see that the first two thirds of your last message to me consisted 
>of a fit of masturbatory name calling.  I do trust you feel better, and hope 
>that you did not get any on you.
>
>To address the questions you were able to ask after having composed 
>yourself:  1)  The convicted have the right to be treated humanely as they 
>are locked up for the duration of their sentence.  They do not have the 
>right to repeatedly fleece the community they have preyed on through the 
>actions of some unprincipled defense attorney who is less concerned for 
>justice than he is for his own job security.
>
>2)  There is no guarantee in our system to a ridiculously unrealistic 
>standard of proof in which a reasonable doubt is confused with ALL doubt.
>
>3)  And finally, YES!  I do wish you would stop thieving from the taxpayer 
>by pursuing unrealistic and abusive legal measures on the undeserving behalf 
>of your criminal clients.
>
>I do hope this helps clear up your confusion on the matter.
>
>Best wishes for a pleasant and joyous holiday season.   -T
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:17 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Pledge to real Americans (Mikey Moore)
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>>Actually, Tony, it was yesterday that I was tired of your ignorance.  I 
>>read
>>your generalizations and mistatements, based on the most recent handful
>>you've grabbed from your nethers, and I ask myself, 'How can I help this
>>man?  Is he as ignorant as he seems?  Or can he learn?  Perhaps if he 
>>takes
>>his opposable thumbs out of their warm sanctuary and uses them to turn
>>pages, he can sound like he knows something.'
>>
>>I'm trying to help you with that process.
>>
>>What rights do the convicted have, Tony?  I'm not talking about the more
>>limited set you wish them to have, I'm talking about the limited ones they
>>already have.  What processes are guaranteed them under our system? 
>>Should
>>their lawyers actually follow the law as it exists?  Or would you prefer
>>that we were thieves, taking our money and not doing our jobs?
>>
>>Sunil
>>
>>
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>>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>>CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Pledge to real Americans (Mikey Moore)
>>>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:27:37 -0800
>>>
>>>Sunil, you seem particularly upset this morning and it's beautiful
>>>outside--cheer up!
>>>
>>>You insist that my position that many lawyers are making a handsome living
>>>by bringing endless appeals is "bullshit".  However, the truth remains 
>>>that
>>>whether they are working from a flat rate or hourly, they ARE well paid,
>>>and it is WRONG to abuse the process by filing one measure after another
>>>for years in an effort to free obviously guilty predators like the
>>>Lankfords or Gene Stuart.
>>>
>>>Can't a fellow of your obvious talent and intelligence make a living
>>>advocating on behalf of society's innocent victims rather than their
>>>tormentors?  God knows they could use your protection and your conscience
>>>could use some relief as well.
>>>
>>>Have a safe and warm weekend.    -T
>>>      
>>>
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