[Vision2020] Man-hater resurfaces.....

debismith at moscow.com debismith at moscow.com
Fri Nov 3 10:40:39 PST 2006


Tony, as this was asked without the usual level of vicious, personal 
comments exhibited in your usual e-mail, I will try to answer honestly.

It is not the insults of your posts per se. It is the beyond-the-bounds 
of-decency levels of your invective. To call someone an idiot because 
their viewpoint differs from yours is one thing. However, you often make 
references to body parts, sexual proclivities, and you tend to fling dung 
rather than mud. This is why people on your side of the fence feel a need 
to rap you on the knuckles. You do your cause no good when you utilize 
the Crazy Preacher or Uncle Pervert personas you have frequently 
exhibited here.

Joan is not given a "pass", nor am I, nor is any other liberal. If you 
look back on the V, each of us had had to pull our foot out of our mouth 
or render an apology when we have been wrong about a fact, or when we 
have been too vehement in defending our beliefs. The difference is we do 
not (nor do most of our counterparts on the conservative side)write an 
entire paragraph with filthy innuendo, swearing, offensive slang, or the 
most rabid language available. We may call you an idiot or an ass.The 
really vicious and nasty things that I would love to call you in response 
to your sexual language directed at me remain unsaid. This is 
called "manners". It is impolite to call someone an idiot. It is really 
unacceptable manners to reach through cyberspace and exhibit your body 
parts, or comment (at length, in a vicious way)on the personal 
habits/life style of someone you have never met.

Honest enough? You can be cleaver, you can be funny, you can even be 
rude. But if you do not have a line beyond which you won't go, you will 
become a pariah. You were all upset about being bozo filtered before. You 
got filtered because of this behavior, not because of your views. I 
simply got tired of wading through the slime to try to find your point...
and sometimes, your point just seems to be the slime....
Debi Robinson-Smith
> Given the respect with which I hold some who have criticized my comments
> to Joan, I am tempted to consider an apology.  However, before making
> that decision final, I am terribly curious why she is given a pass when
> she routinely savages conservatives like me, using every bit as much
> abuse and personal insult.  Is it that liberals are allowed to call
> conservatives ANYTHING they wish and we are simply expected to bend over
> and take it?  I certainly never suggested that she should be physically
> maimed as she wished upon a conservative male poster this past year.
> 
> I respect your opinion GC.  Help me out here.
> 
> dispirited by the new double standard, -T----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: g. crabtree 
>   To: kerry becker ; tonytime at clearwire.net 
>   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:16 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Man-hater resurfaces.....
> 
> 
>   I agree with Mr. Becker. If you could dial back the invective in your
> posts I would greatly appreciate it. Joan is not deserving of that level
> of abuse and personal insult.
> 
>   Thank you,
>   gc
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: kerry becker 
>     To: tonytime at clearwire.net ; jampot at adelphia.net 
>     Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
>     Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:32 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Man-hater resurfaces.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Wow, that was pretty low.  You're becoming a disgrace to those of us
> on the "right" side.  Keep yourself in check man.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>       From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>       To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>       CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>       Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Man-hater resurfaces.....
>       Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:47:54 -0800
> 
> 
>       What a blast of flatulence to hear from Joan after so long.  This
> forum has been so much more pleasant since being rescued from the big,
> fat, bully dyke contingent.
> 
>       Stay under your rock this time sister.
> 
>       Kisses,   -T
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: g. crabtree 
>         To: Tom Hansen ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
>         Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:49 PM
>         Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Response to gc
> 
> 
>         hansen, thanks for passing on my post. It is quite gratifying to
> have Joan come out of 2020 retirement/hiding for little old me. Might I
> remind her that I was providing a brief response to Mr. Uk"s request for
> a list of celebrity liberals who receive media exposure and not trying
> to start a game of "mine is longer than yours." I guess the thought of
> not being considered a leading liberal pundit kind of puts her in a bit
> of an prickly mood. I do find her unpleasant response to a bit of gentle
> teasing to be wholly in keeping with what I have come to expect from
> her, however. 
> 
>         gc
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: "Tom Hansen" <idahotom at hotmail.com>
>         To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>         Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:02 PM
>         Subject: [Vision2020] Response to gc
> 
> 
>         > In response to an earlier posting by gc (that I forwarded to
> her), Joan Opyr 
>         > (AKA Auntie Establishment) requested that I post her comments
> -
>         > 
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>         > 
>         > On Nov 2, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Gary Crabpot listed a few
> celebrity liberals:
>         > 
>         > Katie Couric
>         > Matt Lauer
>         > Rosie O'Donnell
>         > Oprah Winfrey
>         > Jim Lehrer
>         > Tim Russert
>         > Bob Schieffer
>         > Barbara Walters
>         > Janean Garofalo
>         > Dave Letterman
>         > Bill Maher
>         > Jon Stewart
>         > Al Gore
>         > Alan Colmes
>         > Susan Sarandon
>         > Tim Robbins
>         > Alec Baldwin
>         > Woopi Goldberg
>         > Aunty Establishment (just kidding, no one pays any attention
> to her)
>         > 
>         > 
>         > If no one listens to me, then why mention my name?  Welcome to
> the 
>         > middle-aged, big fat, bully boy playground.  It's so easy to
> picture 
>         > hulking, skulking, behavioral disorder Gary hanging out
> beneath the monkey 
>         > bars, shaking down the skinny kids for their milk money --
> easy and sad.
>         > 
>         > Some celebrity conservatives to ponder:
>         > 
>         > Charlton Heston
>         > Tom Selleck
>         > Rush Limbaugh
>         > G. Gordon Liddy
>         > Bo Derek
>         > Sean Hannity
>         > Dennis Miller
>         > Ann Coulter
>         > Phyllis Schlafley
>         > Danielle Crittenden
>         > Gertrude Himmelfarb
>         > Bill Kristol
>         > Bill O'Reilly
>         > Tim LaHaye
>         > Beverly LaHaye
>         > Jerry Falwell
>         > Pat Robertson
>         > Fred Phelps
>         > Lou Dobson
>         > Ralph Reed
>         > Tony Snow (former Fox News reporter now Bush's "official"
> press secretary)
>         > 
>         > Given these two lists, and Doug Wilson's vindictive God, who
> would you 
>         > rather spend eternity with, Janeane Garafalo and Bill Maher,
> or G. Gordon 
>         > "Headshots" Liddy and the heartless bimbo who called the 9/11
> widows 
>         > harpies?  I'll be happy to share a flaming Buddha in Hades
> with Jon Stewart. 
>         >  Gary can enjoy his half-pints of ill-gotten elementary school
> milk with 
>         > Bev LaHaye.
>         > 
>         > 
>         > Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>         > 
>         >
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>         > 
>         > Seeya round town, Moscow.
>         > 
>         > Tom Hansen
>         > Moscow, Idaho
>         > 
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