[Vision2020] clearing the Courtney waters

Tue May 30 01:09:23 PDT 2006

So what should the MSD do, buy pots and put them under the leaks in the roof 
and call THAT maintaining the roof?

Get real!  This is NOT new construction, NOT remodeling - we are not talking 
about changing the construct of the roof, we are talking about keeping the 
school from falling apart at the seams...in other words - maintenance!!!

BTW, mowing the grass is NOT maintenance - it falls under "gardening" and is 
done for aesthetic reasons.  A new roof is done to maintain the building's 
viability.

J  :]

>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com>, kjajmix1 at msn.com,        
>joekc at adelphia.net
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] clearing the Courtney waters
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 09:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ellen,
>
>  Most the grown ups I know have not let a roof fall on  their head, so I 
>don't think that is a requirement for adulthood.   I did not use the words 
>"new construction". I believe a new roof is a  major structural repair. I 
>think of a roof as part of a structure. I  don't think people casually 
>change roofs like they mow the lawn, as  used in your analogy. If it was a 
>casual routine M&O, like mowing  the lawn, would it have been in the 
>newspaper? I am not an expert on  what is considered newsworthy, but the 
>headline, "Moscow High School to  Mow Lawn", doesn't sound like something 
>that would role off the Daily  News press.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>   _DJA
>
>Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com> wrote:    I  think Keely made it 
>very clear. . . . a new roof on an existing  building is maintenance. 
>Period.  It's not "new  construction".  A lot like mowing your lawn is not 
>"landscaping".  New tires and a wash job do not make a new vehicle.
>   I have no problem understanding this.
>   When you grow up and have a roof that falls on your head, you'll 
>understand the importance of preventive maintenace.
>   Ellen A. Roskovich
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
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>From:  Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To:  keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, joekc at adelphia.net
>CC:  vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] clearing the Courtney waters
>Date:  Mon, 29 May 2006 06:28:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
>But Keely, Dale Courtney is telling the truth, you did claim that we could
>not use current M&O for remodeling. On March 28th, here you said;
>
>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-March/027468.html
>
>". . . but no amount of cuts from our maintenance and operations budget 
>will allow
>us to contribute from that budget toward significant remodeling and new 
>construction.
>The State has allowed for new construction and remodeling to be funded only 
>from bonds --
>like it or not, there simply is no legal way to use M and O monies to
>remodel or construct,. . ."
>
>Regards,
>
>   _DJA
>
>keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:    Can't, Joe.
>
>He could say I wear my hair wrong, drink the wrong wine, and talk funny; I
>wouldn't respond and couldn't care less.
>
>But when he
>lies about me, lies about MSD, and deliberately deceives his
>readers -- who will likely be asked to vote on a bond levy at some point in
>the next year -- he ought not be able to do it unchallenged.  I wish MSD
>would engage more with its critics and opponents, but I can't make the 
>admin
>do that.  I CAN try to expose lies and bad information that would otherwise
>flourish from their relatively "secret" posting to only other Kirkers and
>blogbuddies.
>
>A real man would engage in debate, and I won't participate in anything that
>makes it easier for this guy to avoid it; a real Christian doesn't lie 
>about
>people, and I won't enable him to go down that road without putting up a 
>few
>roadblocks.
>
>keely
>
>
>From: Joe Campbell
>To: keely emerinemix
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] clearing the Courtney waters
>Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 15:54:21
>-0700
>
>Stop reading Courtney, Keely.
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
>---- keely emerinemix  wrote:
>
>=============
>
>Well, there must be a reason for my having spent part of a Sunday morning
>checking out Dale Courtney's blog, and here it is:
>
>He lambastes me for having said during the bond campaign that MSD was
>prohibited by law from
>using M & O budget monies for capital building and/or significant remodels,
>and then points out that the high school's north annex roof will be 
>replaced
>this summer.
>
>The obvious implication is that I lied during the campaign or just didn't
>know what I was talking about, and that I further compounded my evil ways 
>by
>voting Tuesday night to accept the low bid for replacement of the annex
>roof.
>
>Wrong again, Dale.  But then, you knew that.
>
>"M & O budget" refers   to -- hold on to your coffee, everyone -- 
>"Maintenance
>and Operations."  Replacing a roof on
>part of an existing building is
>MAINTENANCE.  It maintains the integrity of the building; it is not a
>remodel, and it certainly isn't new construction.  It is exactly the use
>intended by our maintenance budget, which, while tight, is being used
>correctly in this example and throughout the district.  No matter what kind
>of budget trimming Wenders would like to see, the District can't use M & O
>monies to build new buildings or significantly remodel existing ones.  He
>knows that; the blog boys are counting on the ignorance of their reading
>audience.
>
>It seems a safe bet.
>
>Dale and his partner in defamation, Jack Wenders, can crow all they want to
>about the horror of public schools, but they are not free to lie to their
>readers about the District and about me.  (And he even spelled my   name 
>wrong
>-- it's "K E E L Y," Dale -- which is amazing, given the number of times
>he's lied about me in print).  I'm coming to the end of my
>tenure as a
>trustee, and I'm proud of the work I've done.  Dale and I will no doubt
>engage in argument in the future, although he's evidently not brave enough
>to challenge me directly, evincing a cowardice that even my perennial 
>critic
>Donovan Arnold won't stoop to.  Donovan may think I'm scum, but he says it
>to me via Vision, and for that he gets a point in my book.  But however 
>Dale
>gets his jollies blogging hours a day about all manner of things, usually
>cribbed from other sources, he won't find that it goes unchallenged when he
>lies about me or the District.  That goes beyond covenant lying, Dale, and
>isn't remotely clever enough to qualify as "Trinitarian skylarking."
>
>When all is said and done, it's just plain ol' lying, and its "neener,
>neener, neener" quality will receive a much more adult   response than I
>suspect he and the boys want to handle.
>
>Go play now, Dale -- but try to repent before your 10 a.m. worship
>service,
>OK?  Particularly if you're planning to take of the Cup . . .
>
>keely
>
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