[Vision2020] clearing the Courtney waters

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon May 29 09:13:52 PDT 2006 

Ellen,
  
 Most the grown ups I know have not let a roof fall on  their head, so I don't think that is a requirement for adulthood.   I did not use the words "new construction". I believe a new roof is a  major structural repair. I think of a roof as part of a structure. I  don't think people casually change roofs like they mow the lawn, as  used in your analogy. If it was a casual routine M&O, like mowing  the lawn, would it have been in the newspaper? I am not an expert on  what is considered newsworthy, but the headline, "Moscow High School to  Mow Lawn", doesn't sound like something that would role off the Daily  News press.
  
Best Regards,
  
  _DJA

Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com> wrote:    I  think Keely made it very clear. . . . a new roof on an existing  building is maintenance. Period.  It's not "new  construction".  A lot like mowing your lawn is not "landscaping".  New tires and a wash job do not make a new vehicle.
  I have no problem understanding this.
  When you grow up and have a roof that falls on your head, you'll understand the importance of preventive maintenace.
  Ellen A. Roskovich



  
    
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From:  Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
To:  keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, joekc at adelphia.net
CC:  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] clearing the Courtney waters
Date:  Mon, 29 May 2006 06:28:30 -0700 (PDT)
  


But Keely, Dale Courtney is telling the truth, you did claim that we could
not use current M&O for remodeling. On March 28th, here you said;
 
http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-March/027468.html

". . . but no amount of cuts from our maintenance and operations budget will allow
us to contribute from that budget toward significant remodeling and new construction.
The State has allowed for new construction and remodeling to be funded only from bonds -- 
like it or not, there simply is no legal way to use M and O monies to 
remodel or construct,. . ."

Regards,

  _DJA

keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:    Can't, Joe.

He could say I wear my hair wrong, drink the wrong wine, and talk funny; I 
wouldn't respond and couldn't care less.

But when he  
lies about me, lies about MSD, and deliberately deceives his 
readers -- who will likely be asked to vote on a bond levy at some point in 
the next year -- he ought not be able to do it unchallenged.  I wish MSD 
would engage more with its critics and opponents, but I can't make the admin 
do that.  I CAN try to expose lies and bad information that would otherwise 
flourish from their relatively "secret" posting to only other Kirkers and 
blogbuddies.

A real man would engage in debate, and I won't participate in anything that 
makes it easier for this guy to avoid it; a real Christian doesn't lie about 
people, and I won't enable him to go down that road without putting up a few 
roadblocks.

keely


From: Joe Campbell 
To: keely emerinemix 
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] clearing the Courtney waters
Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 15:54:21  
-0700

Stop reading Courtney, Keely.
--
Joe Campbell

---- keely emerinemix  wrote:

=============

Well, there must be a reason for my having spent part of a Sunday morning
checking out Dale Courtney's blog, and here it is:

He lambastes me for having said during the bond campaign that MSD was
prohibited by law from
using M & O budget monies for capital building and/or significant remodels,
and then points out that the high school's north annex roof will be replaced
this summer.

The obvious implication is that I lied during the campaign or just didn't
know what I was talking about, and that I further compounded my evil ways by
voting Tuesday night to accept the low bid for replacement of the annex
roof.

Wrong again, Dale.  But then, you knew that.

"M & O budget" refers   to -- hold on to your coffee, everyone -- "Maintenance
and Operations."  Replacing a roof on  
part of an existing building is
MAINTENANCE.  It maintains the integrity of the building; it is not a
remodel, and it certainly isn't new construction.  It is exactly the use
intended by our maintenance budget, which, while tight, is being used
correctly in this example and throughout the district.  No matter what kind
of budget trimming Wenders would like to see, the District can't use M & O
monies to build new buildings or significantly remodel existing ones.  He
knows that; the blog boys are counting on the ignorance of their reading
audience.

It seems a safe bet.

Dale and his partner in defamation, Jack Wenders, can crow all they want to
about the horror of public schools, but they are not free to lie to their
readers about the District and about me.  (And he even spelled my   name wrong
-- it's "K E E L Y," Dale -- which is amazing, given the number of times
he's lied about me in print).  I'm coming to the end of my  
tenure as a
trustee, and I'm proud of the work I've done.  Dale and I will no doubt
engage in argument in the future, although he's evidently not brave enough
to challenge me directly, evincing a cowardice that even my perennial critic
Donovan Arnold won't stoop to.  Donovan may think I'm scum, but he says it
to me via Vision, and for that he gets a point in my book.  But however Dale
gets his jollies blogging hours a day about all manner of things, usually
cribbed from other sources, he won't find that it goes unchallenged when he
lies about me or the District.  That goes beyond covenant lying, Dale, and
isn't remotely clever enough to qualify as "Trinitarian skylarking."

When all is said and done, it's just plain ol' lying, and its "neener,
neener, neener" quality will receive a much more adult   response than I
suspect he and the boys want to handle.

Go play now, Dale -- but try to repent before your 10 a.m. worship  
service,
OK?  Particularly if you're planning to take of the Cup . . .

keely

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