[Vision2020] Response to question about bar admission re: "A Swan Dive ?"

[Michael Curley]

Cited below is a post from Wayne.  I have paid no attention to the 
discussion of the specific matter or individual, and have no comment 
on it.  But I thought the question about bar applicants was worth 
taking the time to answer.
Idaho, and I believe most other states, still does consider "citizen" 
comments  regarding bar applicants.  And, applicants are required to 
file a detailed statement about their prior "activities" including 
lawsuits in which they have been parties, insurance claims, criminal 
charges major and minor (including traffic tickets).  I believe that 
any serious charge of misconduct, particularly that reflected 
negatively on the ethics or honesty of a bar applicant would be 
investigated and considered seriously by the admissions office.  I 
cannot tell you what might actually disqualify a person or perhaps 
get him/her admitted on probation or any other conditioned status.  
For a more complete answer, however, you could consult the Idaho 
State Bar.  You can find contact information, as well as a fairly 
detailed discussion of how to file complaints against attorneys and 
judges, the Idaho Code (statutes), and a plethora of other Idaho 
legal-related information at www.state.id.us/isb.
Regards,
Mike Curley


From:           	"Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
To:             	"Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject:        	Re: [Vision2020] Re: A Swan Dive ?
Date sent:      	Sun, 21 May 2006 17:42:23 -0700

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This is old and may well be out of date.

A single parent friend of mine worked 40 - 60 hours per week and in
addition managed to earn a law degree from Gonzaga many years ago. 
This person passed the bar exam first time with high marks.

She told me that she was afraid that she might not be admitted to the
bar because before the actually license to practice was issued there
was a period for people to make comments.  This person did not have a
criminal record but had committed a minor indiscretion when she was
much younger. She was licensed.

Thus was a long time ago.  I don't know if the process for allowing
comment after an applicant's passing the bar exam and before 
licensing
is still practiced.  I am not sure the magnitude of Cooper-Swan's
deception would be a problem anyway.  It was dishonest and
hypocritical, but not in excess of what one might see in court most
days.

Perhaps a member of the bar could enlighten us.

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: A Swan Dive ?


> Doesn't he have to have SOME kind of ethics in order to join the
> Bar? That's what I got from the Bar of Idaho's web page.
>
> Does anyone know if the UI Law School does any kind of investigation
> of it's students before they are accepted to make sure there are no
> legal or ethical background issues that could come back and haunt
> them or their program?
>
> J  :]
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>>To: "Taro Tanaka" <taro_tanaka at hotmail.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: A Swan Dive ?
>>Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 00:11:18 -0700
>>
>>>I had been under the impression that the objective facts of the
>>>case as concerns WSU -- the "who did and said what" -- had been
>>>more or less objectively established but that there was a
>>>difference of opinion as to whether all that constituted a
>>>violation of Ed Swan's rights, or, to put it another way, improper
>>>behavior on the part of WSU: with FIRE taking the position that
>>>what WSU freely admitted doing constituted a violation of Swan's
>>>rights.
>>
>>Actually, "Taro", no facts whatosever have been established, because
>>the only party that can legally reveal *any facts whatsoever* is Ed
>>Swan. He's fighting with someone he damn well knows has their hands
>>tied behind their back: the people he's shadow-boxing have legal,
>>ethical, and professional responsibilities to confidentiality. Ed
>>doesn't. Ed doesn't even feel he has the ethical responsibility to
>>release those records, and -- as long as he doesn't -- he's a rank
>>coward and a litigious ideological bully.
>>
>>So I'm calling you out, Ed. Put up or shut up, now that your fifteen
>>minutes of fame are over. Release your records or go home.
>>
>>-- ACS
>>
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