[Vision2020] Re: government checks? please!

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Wed May 17 12:44:07 PDT 2006


Keely,
  
 It bothers me, but does not surprise me, that you were  a on the school board and yet are unable to read and follow an argument.
  
  My father is retired from the military. And he too earned his  retirement check. That WAS NOT THE ARGUMENT. Nor was anyone's service  to the community, except yours.
  
  The argument was that Tom Hansen was attacking me for collecting a government checks to go to school. I don't. 
  
  I was pointing out Tom Hansen's hypocrisy for attacking people that  work for government when he DOES too, and NOT for his military check,  but for collecting a disability check when CLEARLY he can and does  work. I too could collect a $690 a month plus food stamps, and medical,  and disability check, but I can work, so that would be a lie wouldn't  it? regardless of what the law entitles me to. There really are people  out there that are so disabled they cannot work. Disability checks  should go to them. Not people with disabilities that still function and  can contribute at a paying job. 
  
  _DJA

keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:  I've learned that answering him is like feeding stray cats, but I take 
exception to Donovans saying that Tom Hansen has never had a job that didn't 
result in a government paycheck.

Tom is a veteran.  He served his country and served it well, as evidenced by 
his long tenure and his honorable discharge.  He gave what he had and earned 
every paycheck he got, and it offends me greatly to suggest that he and 
other veterans simply relied on "government checks."  The government, and 
all of us, relied on them.  Simple as that.

I'm glad you're getting your education, Donovan, and doing it the hard way, 
but judging from your take on voting and service to the country, you seem 
not to have learned very much at all.

keely


From: Donovan Arnold 
To: Tom Hansen 
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Norton AntiSpam] 
Re:[Vision2020] Not Votng anymore-Waste of Time
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:22:54 -0700 (PDT)

Tom,

  I also graduated after five years and while working 40  hours a weeks 
during 3/4 of that time. I have two associates degrees  that I obtained by 
working. I also have a BS in Political Science. I am  working on my MA in 
Special Education and a BS in Education. Not to  mention I am also working 
on a AS in Nursing.

  For your  information, I have two jobs, working 50 hours a week and still  
maintain a 3.5 GPA in graduate School. I collect two paychecks. I  earned 
them. I unlike some people, refuse to remain stupid and  uneducated while 
staying at a dead end job for $10 a hour or less. My  starting wage in life 
is higher than your maximum at the end of your  life.

  The question is not, Tommy, why I continue to take  classes for the rest 
of my life as educational and medical technology  needs change and advance; 
the question is why you fail to try and learn  more when it so evident that 
you know so little, even after living so  long.

  And it is YOU who are living on taxpayers dollars, you  never had a job 
that did not issue a government check Tommy. Nor do I  accept my disability 
check, that is bullshit. If you can work, you have  NO right to collect a 
check when others cannot, Nor do I collect any  taxpayer funds for my 
education, it is all 100% loans and what I pay  with my hard labor, and 
graduate students pay more than they cost the  University, unlike your 
education.

   Regards,

   _DJA

Tom Hansen  wrote:              v\:* 
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }                    Come on, Arnold.  
You’ve been in college how  long now?  How many majors?

     I graduated in 1996 after five years.

     Regardless of what people may tell you, Arnold,  as a student you are 
not eligible for tenure.  Get out and get a  real job.  Or are you going to 
simply live off us tax payers?

     Enough friggin’ said.

     t hansen


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     From: Donovan Arnold  [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
   Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:16  PM
   To: Tom Hansen; 'Ed'
   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
   Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE:  [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Norton AntiSpam] 
Re: [Vision2020] Not Votng  anymore-Waste of Time


     Yeap,  you are right Mr. Hansen. I am lazy. I work two jobs and go to 
graduate  school and am in a vocational training program. If I really cared, 
I  would do more. If I really wanted to stay busy, I would get a job  
sitting behind a computer at UI writing endless comments on community  serve 
lists calling other people lazy for not doing things I suggest  they do.

   _DJA




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