[Vision2020] Not Votng anymore-Waste of Time

Tue May 16 19:11:26 PDT 2006

Matt,

 Anyone that has a household income in Latah of over 30K  a year, is wealthy; as the average household income is 30K.  Do  you propose that anyone on the current school board, on in any elected  office in Moscow, Latah, or elected in a statewide election in Idaho  has an income below that?

  If so, who?

  _DJA

Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:  D,

So who is the wealthy around here that would support your arguement?

>From: Donovan Arnold 
>To: Ed 
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Not Votng anymore-Waste of Time
>Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ed,
>
>  Voting is also giving validity to the process. I think  the process is 
>unfair and rigged to favor the wealthy and those already  in power. If the 
>government had an election where you are asked to vote  on if you wanted to 
>be bashed in the head, or kicked in nuts, would you  vote in that election 
>and give it credence? Voting is consenting to the  choices and process as 
>being valid. Our voting system is not a valid  one.
>
>   _DJA
>
>
>Ed  wrote:          I  realize this may be a stupid 
>question... but, living in a  Representative Republic, don't we want those 
>whom we've elected to vote  on our behalf, and in a way that 
>represents/reflects their  constituency?
>
>   In  response to the individual who doesn't intend to vote: I try to vote 
>in  every election if I can. If I don't vote, I have no room to  complain 
>about or praise or elected officials. A ballot is also  the ticket to 
>gripe.. No ticket, no griping!
>
>   --Ed
>       ----- Original Message -----
>     From:     Donovan Arnold
>     To: Bill London ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>     Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:49 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Not Votng     anymore-Waste of Time
>
>
>Bill,
>
>Yes,  I resigned myself to knowing that my opinion based on my experiences  
>are invalid whenever they are in conflict with your own.
>
>However,  I happen to believe that any office which requires a substantial 
>amount  of time, money, and commitment automatically excludes any and all  
>people that are poor and need to work for a living. How many people in  
>political office are on food stamps?
>
>It is also my experience  that those in office could learn a great deal, 
>and make some major  improvements in education if they would be willing to 
>include those  that are poor. And please don't respond back about how poor 
>so and so  on the committee use to be. I am talking about people that have 
>been  poor their entire life and are dealing with sending their children to 
>a  school being poor today. 99% of us were poor at some time in our own  
>definition.
>
>None of the candidates I have heard from  care about anything other than 
>getting elected and providing a a new  school for THEIR child at my 
>expense. Or in the case of Ms. Dibble who  is willing to sell her vote to 
>whatever 2/3 of the people want.
>
>It  appears to me that they are all upper class people just trying to get  
>involved for the purposes of getting more toys at taxpayer expense for  
>their child or enforce what the majority want for future victories at  the 
>ballot box.
>
>None of them have addressed the real issues and  problems facing education. 
>No Science and Math teachers, low pay for  Math and Science Teachers, all 
>the benefits and pay going to teachers  for sticking around, not doing a 
>good job, a decent school lunch  program, career placement services, and 
>life management skills.
>
>So  none of them get my vote. Especially if they don't even bother to send  
>or leave me a flyer, call me, email me, or knock on my door. They are  lazy 
>bastards, a school zone is not that big.  If they cannot  manage to go down 
>the street and ask for my vote they ain't going to be  doing it after they 
>are elected for my opinion either.
>
>_DJA
>
>
>
>Bill London      wrote:                        D-
>       Your response is misinformed and way off the       mark.
>       The  election today is a school board election.  The four candidates 
>  are competing for two volunteer positions (as in unpaid).
>       The  winning candidates will be forced to sit through interminable 
>meetings,  listen to mind-numbing statistics, choose alternatives that 
>nobody  likes, and deal with angry uninformed constituents -- all for the  
>chance to help a school district that really needs direction and  
>assistance.
>       My guess is that they are candidates because       they care about 
>Moscow's schools and schoolchildren.
>       BL
>               -----         Original Message -----
>         From:         Donovan Arnold
>         To:         Dan         Carscallen ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>         Sent:         Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:27 PM
>         Subject:         RE: [Vision2020] Not Votng anymore-Waste of Time
>
>
>When  less than half the population votes, that is the majority not voting. 
>  Out of 20,000 people in Moscow, less than 4,000, probably less than  
>3,000 or even 2,000 will vote in this election tonight.
>
>I bet  you a beer, less than 5,000 votes are cast. I will bet you another 
>beer  that the winning candidate does not give a rip, only that they won 
>and  will do nothing serious during their term to try and get the majority  
>to the polls in the next election.
>
>_DJA
>
>Dan Carscallen          wrote:         Donovan          
>  says:
>
>"I think I speak with the majority when I say I am not           going to 
>vote. At
>least not in elections that offer no choice, it is           a waste of my 
>time."
>
>I guess I'm in the minority, because Donovan           doesn't speak for 
>me.
>
>planning on wasting my           time,
>
>DC
>
>
>
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