[Vision2020] Not Votng anymore-Waste of Time

Tue May 16 17:32:33 PDT 2006

Ed,

 Voting is also giving validity to the process. I think  the process is unfair and rigged to favor the wealthy and those already  in power. If the government had an election where you are asked to vote  on if you wanted to be bashed in the head, or kicked in nuts, would you  vote in that election and give it credence? Voting is consenting to the  choices and process as being valid. Our voting system is not a valid  one. 

  _DJA

Ed <ecooper at turbonet.com> wrote:          I  realize this may be a stupid question... but, living in a  Representative Republic, don't we want those whom we've elected to vote  on our behalf, and in a way that represents/reflects their  constituency? 

  In  response to the individual who doesn't intend to vote: I try to vote in  every election if I can. If I don't vote, I have no room to  complain about or praise or elected officials. A ballot is also  the ticket to gripe.. No ticket, no griping!

  --Ed
      ----- Original Message ----- 
    From:     Donovan Arnold 
    To: Bill London ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:49 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Not Votng     anymore-Waste of Time

Bill,

Yes,  I resigned myself to knowing that my opinion based on my experiences  are invalid whenever they are in conflict with your own.

However,  I happen to believe that any office which requires a substantial amount  of time, money, and commitment automatically excludes any and all  people that are poor and need to work for a living. How many people in  political office are on food stamps?

It is also my experience  that those in office could learn a great deal, and make some major  improvements in education if they would be willing to include those  that are poor. And please don't respond back about how poor so and so  on the committee use to be. I am talking about people that have been  poor their entire life and are dealing with sending their children to a  school being poor today. 99% of us were poor at some time in our own  definition.  

None of the candidates I have heard from  care about anything other than getting elected and providing a a new  school for THEIR child at my expense. Or in the case of Ms. Dibble who  is willing to sell her vote to whatever 2/3 of the people want.

It  appears to me that they are all upper class people just trying to get  involved for the purposes of getting more toys at taxpayer expense for  their child or enforce what the majority want for future victories at  the ballot box.

None of them have addressed the real issues and  problems facing education. No Science and Math teachers, low pay for  Math and Science Teachers, all the benefits and pay going to teachers  for sticking around, not doing a good job, a decent school lunch  program, career placement services, and life management skills. 

So  none of them get my vote. Especially if they don't even bother to send  or leave me a flyer, call me, email me, or knock on my door. They are  lazy bastards, a school zone is not that big.  If they cannot  manage to go down the street and ask for my vote they ain't going to be  doing it after they are elected for my opinion either.

_DJA

Bill London     <london at moscow.com> wrote:                        D-
      Your response is misinformed and way off the       mark.
      The  election today is a school board election.  The four candidates  are competing for two volunteer positions (as in unpaid).
      The  winning candidates will be forced to sit through interminable meetings,  listen to mind-numbing statistics, choose alternatives that nobody  likes, and deal with angry uninformed constituents -- all for the  chance to help a school district that really needs direction and  assistance.
      My guess is that they are candidates because       they care about Moscow's schools and schoolchildren.
      BL
              -----         Original Message ----- 
        From:         Donovan Arnold 
        To:         Dan         Carscallen ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
        Sent:         Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:27 PM
        Subject:         RE: [Vision2020] Not Votng anymore-Waste of Time

When  less than half the population votes, that is the majority not voting.  Out of 20,000 people in Moscow, less than 4,000, probably less than  3,000 or even 2,000 will vote in this election tonight.

I bet  you a beer, less than 5,000 votes are cast. I will bet you another beer  that the winning candidate does not give a rip, only that they won and  will do nothing serious during their term to try and get the majority  to the polls in the next election. 

_DJA

Dan Carscallen         <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:         Donovan           says:

"I think I speak with the majority when I say I am not           going to vote. At
least not in elections that offer no choice, it is           a waste of my time."

I guess I'm in the minority, because Donovan           doesn't speak for me.

planning on wasting my           time,

DC

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