[Vision2020] Why Go After Them? - same arguments

[Scott Dredge]

rvcowboy,

You continue to write that "those who wish to legalize these other sins use the exact same arguments as the gay community uses to legalize gay marriage."  What specifically are these same arguments / justifications?  Reasons often sited for the justificaiton of the legalization of gay marriage are based on equal rights (spousal health benefits, asset transfer between spouses, etc.) and that this type of a partnerships is between consenting adults.  These reasons would not apply to the other scenarios that you've mentioned, so what other specific justification have you heard or read about for the legalization for gay marriage?

-Scott

rvrcowboy <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net> wrote: This is what I wrote: " Most of the arguments promoting the legalization of
gay marriage appear to me to be the very same arguments that would promote
beastiality, incestial marriage and legalization of sex with children."
also:  "Some here have indicated they are appaled with those things but use
the same arguments to justify their position on homosexuality."


I have been questioning people in the homosexual community for years about
this topic and I am telling you it has been my experience that those who
wish to legalize these other sins use the exact same arguments as the gay
community uses to legalize gay marriage.

I should not have used the term "some here" in the second sentence, I
apologize.  I should have said "Some in the homosexual community" which is
what I meant.  Please forgive me for the error.

Dick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: 
To: "rvrcowboy" 
Cc: "Vision2020" ; "Chasuk" 
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Vision2020] Why Go After Them?


> Dick,
>
> You are just flat-out wrong. No one on Vision 2020 has offered an argument
justifying same sex marriage that can be used to justify "bestiality,
> incest and sex with minor children." These cases can be distinguished and
many on Vision 2020 have done a good job doing distinguishing them.
>
> Your argument is like me saying "Eric Rudolph is anti-gay and Dick is
anti-gay, so there is not much difference between them."
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- rvrcowboy  wrote:
>
> =============
> My argument was that many of the same arguments used to justify same sex
> marriage are also the same arguments people use to justify bestiality,
> incest and sex with minor children.  So what makes them different?  Some
> here have indicated they are appaled with those things but use the same
> arguments to justify their position on homosexuality.
>
> I believe there is a common thread running through all these issues.  Why
> should anyone be tolerant of one of these issues but not tolerant of the
> others?  What makes them different?  That is my point, nothing more,
nothing
> less.
>
> Dick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chasuk" 
> To: "rvrcowboy" 
> Cc: "Vision2020" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Vision2020] Why Go After Them?
>
>
> > On 5/11/06, rvrcowboy  wrote:
> >
> > > Most of the arguments promoting the legalization of gay marriage
appear
> to
> > > me to be the very same arguments that would promote beastiality,
> incestial
> > > marriage and legalization of sex with children.
> >
> > It is "bestiality," not beastiality, and "incestuous," not incestial.
> > Further, you asked about incest, not about "incestial (sic)
> > marriage."
> >
> > So, sex between consenting adults seems to you to be the same as sex
> > with animals, sex with kin, and sex with children?
> >
> > I feel sorry for your dog, your grandmother, and your
> children/grandchildren.
> >
>
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