[Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

[joekc at adelphia.net]

Apologies to Nils but I wanted to partake in the endless rant one more time!

I am not against either WinCo or the existing Wal-mart and for the reason you note. They save money and it is plausible that people will spend that saved money elsewhere. With a Super Wal-Mart, things are very different. Why go anywhere else? 

There is nothing "condescending" about this observation either. It is based on my own personal experience. When I go shopping with my kid I tend not to stop at 3 or 4 different places if everything I need and want is at one place.

Nor should we talk about disposable income in the abstract, as you suggest. In the abstract, asprin is good but if you take a whole bottle of it, it will kill you. I feel the same way about low-cost and convenience. Both are good in the abstract but too much of both -- in the form of a single Super WalMart -- will kill the local economy.

Lastly, I don't know what planet you are from but on my planet philosophy professors do not make a lot of money! I have shopped at WalMart, I continue to shop at WinCo, and I don't blame anyone for shopping at either.

--
Joe Campbell

---- deaconjames at verizon.net wrote: 

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Yes, I often consider myself Reagan. Why?

You say, "There is no reason to think that the 'savings' will eventually trickle down to us." Are you expecting a check to show up in your mailbox? When you say this, you sound a lot like you are saying, "I'm looking out for me and mine; screw those poor people who don't have a professor's salary."

Let's think about this in the abstract, completely aside from WalMart. Is increased disposable income a) good for the local economy, b) bad for the local economy, or c) doesn't have any effect on the local economy? If a), then we can discuss whether or not WalMart would increase disposable income. If b) or c), then we can discuss the merits of your thinking on this point.

And by the way, my wife shops for us at Walmart and Winco, and the money that we save shopping there allows us to spend money at other stores around town that we otherwise wouldn't be able to. You sound so condescending when you say, "Why not suppose that they will just spend the increased income at Walmart, where they are going to shop anyway." 

People who shop at Walmart are humans, Joe, not mindless, Walmart-adoring drones. They are trying to save some money; that's all.

Take care,

Deacon

From: joekc at adelphia.net
Date: Tue May 09 17:54:37 CDT 2006
To: deaconjames at verizon.net
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

Are you Reagan?
--
Joe Campbell

---- deaconjames at verizon.net wrote: 

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Are you serious?

From: joekc at adelphia.net
Date: Tue May 09 17:18:07 CDT 2006
To: deaconjames at verizon.net
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

Why not suppose that they will just spend the increased income at Walmart, where they are going to shop anyway. There is no reason to think that the 'savings' will eventually trickle down to us.

--
Joe Campbell

---- deaconjames at verizon.net wrote: 

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Let's put in terms of groceries, then: $.30 can of tuna vs. $.50 can of tuna. It's a better comparison anyway, because both are the same product and both will be consumed and forgotten. 

Bottom line: increased disposable income, which leads to increased prosperity in the region.

Take care,

Deacon

From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
Date: Tue May 09 14:46:02 CDT 2006
To: deaconjames at verizon.net, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

Deacon James stated:

"If someone spends $10 on a toaster instead of $20, they have $10 extra
dollars to spend on something else they otherwise would not have been able
to purchase."

Yet, if that same "someone" found it necessary to purchase that same
ten-dollar toaster three times each year (due to lesser quality), while
his/her neighbor "someone else" purchased the twenty-dollar toaster that
lasted twelve months, someone else would "have $10 extra dollars to spend on
something else they otherwise would not have been able to purchase."

Something else to think about,

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
and the REALIST adjusts his sails." 

- Unknown 

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