[Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

Tue May 9 13:39:04 PDT 2006

RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject RezoneMr. Hansen,

Did I once mention Wal-Mart? Did I not say"both local and national"?
Perhaps you should clean your spectacles, take a deep breathe an re-read my
post. I never said Wal-Mart was the end-all be-all saviour of Moscow.
I said, Mr. Hansen, this town needs some business diversity..DIVERSITY....
I'm sure you've heard the word before.
Relying on one enterprise is a dangerous thing for a community; witness all
the dying towns that did. True the chances of the UI completely failing are
slim, but cutbacks in programs and employment could have a devestating
effect if Moscow fails to attract and keep other sources of
employment/income, including retail and industrial.
On that property: A wrecking yard would be worse, as would a dump or
recycling center, a pollutant spewing heavy indrutrial plant , a
sub-division. So would anything having to do with the university which isn't
subject to taxation.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Tom Hansen [mailto:thansen at moscow.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:39 AM
  To: 'Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor'; 'Mark Solomon'; 'Vision2020 at Moscow.
Com'
  Subject: RE: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

  Kai Eiselein stated:

  "My point is there are worse things to put in besides retail."

  This is very, very true, Mr. Eiselein.    And like zoning for a goliath
retail outlet the 77-acre parcel would require rezoning for them as well.

  As far as bSU becoming the premier university of Idaho, we have discussed
this several times earlier.  Believe me.  It has NOTHING to do with WalMarts
in Boise.

  However, you are free to explain how welcoming another WalMart Super
Center (eight miles from the one being built in Pullman) to Moscow will
result in sufficient "smart" growth as to rival Boise.

  A claim that:

  1)  A WalMart Super Center in Moscow will attract families to move here or

  2)  A WalmMart Super Center in Moscow will convince students to grow roots
here after graduation

  Reflects poor judgment on any person making such claims.

  Tom Hansen

  Moscow, Idaho

  "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"

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  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:19 AM
  To: Mark Solomon; Vision2020 at Moscow. Com
  Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

  My point is there are worse things to put in besides retail.

  Frankly the smell of cattle doesn't bother me, I've wound up face down in
a wet barnyard too many times. Frankly I find the cookie cutter housing
developments a bigger scourge.

  This town needs to get its eggs diversified between retail, both local and
national, ag, some type of manufacturing and the university. Right now, it
seems as though everyone wants to throw all their eggs into the university
basket.

  What happens when the grants fail to materialize or cutbacks are forced by
less taxpayer money? The UI is a hurting institution, BSU is rapidly
overtaking it as the state's premier public college. It is going to feel the
squeeze of competition by BYU as it expands it program in S. Idaho.

  Relying too much one one industry is not a smart move.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mark Solomon [mailto:msolomon at moscow.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:57 AM
    To: Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor; Vision2020 at Moscow. Com
    Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

    Except for that little water right detail. The county appropriately took
care of that when they adopted their Moscow Sub-basin groundwater ordinance
which limits the amount of animals at any confined facility in the
sub-basin. Theoretically, this would not be an issue in the City either if
they had followed their own code and rezoned the Thompson property when
annexed to Farm-Ranch Transitional which does not allow dairy operations
except as a conditional use on parcels larger than 20 acres and facilities
located more than 500' from a property line.

    The point I'm trying to make here, Kai, is flip statements regarding
community planning and zoning issues usually don't work.

    Mark

    m.

    At 10:28 AM -0700 5/9/06, Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor wrote:

      Ok, so put in a dairy.....same effect

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mark Solomon [mailto:msolomon at moscow.com]
      Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:11 PM
      To: Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor; Vision2020 at Moscow. Com
      Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

        Kai,

        Actually, they can't (put in a feedlot). The city zoning code does
not allow for feedlots. Even before last June's landowner requested
annexation, when it was in the county, city rules would have still applied
as it is in the Area of City Impact.

        B. Permitted Principal Uses and
        Structures:
        1. Agriculture, including the raising,
        harvesting, and selling of crops; on-site
        storage of grain and seed; the raising
        and sale of livestock or poultry;
        dairying and sale of dairy products; and
        other similar agricultural, horticultural,
        or animal husbandry uses, excluding
        feedlots with more than twenty (20)

        animals.

        As for purchasing the land and keeping it green space, word on the
street is Frank Bennett, who lives on the adjoining property, made
Thompson's an offer but was refused. I'm afraid I don't have Frank's ear so
have not been able to personally verify.

        Mark Solomon

        At 4:08 PM -0700 5/8/06, Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor wrote:

        Of course, the Thompsons could keep it agricultural and put a
feedlot there.
        It has good drainage, power to the property and easy highway access
for
        semi-trucks.
        The odor would be in keeping with Moscow's "rural ambience".
        Be careful what you wish for................

        -----Original Message-----
        From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
        [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Dan Carscallen
        Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:43 PM
        To: 'Moscow Vision 2020'
        Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Council Must Reject Rezone

        Tom says:
        "One suggestion to maintain a large portion of Moscow's "green"ery
would
        be not to pave a 77-acre parcel that may evolve into nothing more
than a
        weed-infested blacktop eye-sore."

        Another suggestion:  The best "zoning" is "owning".  You want to
keep it
        "green", buy the sucker.

        DC

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