[Vision2020] Beastiality and Incest

[Art Deco]

Cowboy Dick,


I don't remember getting a response from you to the following from an earlier post.  Did I miss your response?  I look forward to it.


However, I repeat the question and hope for a real response, not a near emotional meltdown:

How do you know that the Bible is the word of some alleged God?

You claim in your posts that the Bible is the word of some alleged god.  In doing so you are making a knowledge claim -- claiming that certain statements are true of reality.  

A knowledge claim needs to be supported by evidence, especially if that claim is to used to restrict the freedom and joy of others. 

If I said that pollution from the Potlatch Industries operation in Lewiston elevates the risk of cancer for Lewiston residents, you would expect and would be justified in your expectation that I produce clear, cogent, and verifiable evidence that such a knowledge claim is true.  That is exactly what is being asked of your knowledge claim that the Bible is the word of some alleged God.

After claiming that the Bible is "the word of God," you then use only your interpretation of words from the Bible to attempt to justify your imposition of behavioral standards on others.

You see the problem:  If you cannot justify your underlying knowledge claim, then you cannot justify the moral pronouncements and their restrictions on individuals' personal freedom that are based on that unsupported knowledge claim.

More than two-thirds of the population of the world do not agree the Bible is the word of some god.  Again:  What clear, cogent, verifiable evidence do you offer for the truth of your knowledge claim that the Bible is the word of some alleged God?


Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
deco at moscow.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: rvrcowboy 
To: Vision2020 
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Beastiality and Incest


I sincerely hope people here do not take this post the wrong way but there is a question that has been troubling me for some time.  As far as I know, and believe me I am no expert here, many of the same cites in the Bible which speak directly about homosexuality also speak directly about beastiality and incest.  

I have heard people justify their homosexual acts by stating that these passages of the Bible also ban other things, like eating pork, etc..  Since many here are openly homosexual, or gay if you prefer, I would like very much to know your views on beastiality and incest.  Do you believe these are also a matter of choice that the Bible does not take seriously?  

Please believe me, I am not trying to stir the pot with this question in any way.  I am  truly curious about your views on these things.  I am aware that some of you are not practicing Christians so the Bible passages probably mean nothing to you.  Still, I would like to know your feelings.

If you do not want to answer within the forum you may answer outside of it and please request that I do not ever refer to your response here and I won't, if that is your wish.  I am not asking this to put anyone down.  I am truly curious, that's all.

Dick Sherwin


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