[Vision2020] Beastiality and Incest

[Joan Opyr]

> rvrcowboy wrote:
>> I sincerely hope people here do not take this post the wrong way but 
>> there is a question that has been troubling me for some time.  As far 
>> as I know, and believe me I am no expert here, many of the same cites 
>> in the Bible which speak directly about homosexuality also speak 
>> directly about beastiality and incest.  I have heard people justify 
>> their homosexual acts by stating that these passages of the Bible 
>> also ban other things, like eating pork, etc..  Since many here are 
>> openly homosexual, or gay if you prefer, I would like very much to 
>> know your views on beastiality and incest.  Do you believe these are 
>> also a matter of choice that the Bible does not take seriously?

Is there a right way to take this post?  I don't say this to insult 
you, Dick, but when you compare my same-sex, monogamous, mutually 
respectful relationship of 14 years with those who commit incest or 
abuse children or have sex with dumb animals, I can't help but take 
offense.  I also feel obliged to point out that as a Jewish lesbian, I 
could be in the clear.  Gay Jewish men are not so lucky, but many 
Orthodox rabbis have determined that there is nothing in Jewish law to 
prevent them from marrying one Jewish woman to another Jewish woman.  
If only Melynda were Jewish . . .

Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
www.joanopyr.com

PS: It might help to know that the Hebrew Bible is, for many of us, a 
living document.  It's not written in stone.  There is a tradition as 
old as Judaism itself of questioning and interpreting scripture, and of 
questioning and debating what God meant then, what God means now, what 
we should have and hold, and what was the changing product of a 
different time and a different place.  I am not a Biblical literalist.  
I am not a Biblical inerrantist.  But I do believe in God -- ostensibly 
the same God in which you believe.  Hard to imagine, I know.