[Vision2020] Death Penalty Must Be Abolised

[keely emerinemix]

How kind of you, Dick, to not judge women and men on their views regarding 
abortion.  I only wish you would extend that kind of charity to women who 
have had abortions, very few of whom did so simply as a remedy for 
promiscuous behavior or a cure-all for being, as you say, "stupid" in their 
behavior.

This may come as an utter shock to you, but did you know that many women who 
seek abortion are not "in the game" -- your words again, meant to describe 
why you shouldn't help them out -- when it comes to deciding when to have 
sex and whether or not to use contraceptives?  Poor women very often lack 
the kind of autonomy that many of us are blessed with, and I doubt seriously 
that in your marriage you've ever been forced to have sex or prevented from 
using a condom if you desired.  But I know many, many women who have no say 
in sex or in contraception; their men make the decisions.  Are these women 
promiscuous, stupid, or simply unlucky?  And did you know that some women 
who want an abortion have been raped, which is the ultimate means of being 
"out of the game" when it comes to autonomy and control?  Was it promiscuity 
that got them in that situation?  Stupidity?

Women all over the world await your response, offered, I'm sure, 
non-judgmentally.  I wish that, since you and I both believe that unborn 
life is worthy of protection, we could also agree that already-born women 
are worthy of mercy and grace as well.  Because for every female fetus 
that's aborted, there's a real-life, grown-up, adult woman who's hurting 
like hell.

And no, I've never had an abortion, as someone asked me off-list.  It's 
actually none of anyone's business, but I want to make sure that no one 
assigns my argument to the "well, no wonder . . . " file, where so many 
arguments from women seem to land . . .

keely


From: "rvrcowboy" <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net>
To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Death Penalty Must Be Abolised
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 15:05:51 -0700

Tom,

For some of us, at least, the question on abortion takes on a wider
philosophy, other than simply is it right or wrong.  To me, personally, it
is a moral issue and, in nearly every case, I am against it.  However, that
does not mean I believe I have the right to judge everyone else on their own
moral opinion.  That is God's job, not mine.

What I do object too is public funding of abortion as a remedy for
promiscous behavior.  As one who strongly believes in personal
responsibility, I believe people should be responsible for their own fun and
games and should also take care of the consequences themselves.  Those of us
who were not in the game, so to speak, should not be forced to share in the
consequences of someone elses' stupidity.

Nothing is black and white 100%, however, common sense should still play a
part in all issues, regardless of legal decisions and controversey.  I would
rather buy my daughter a new car than pay for her abortion, let alone your
daughter's abortion.

Liberal or Conservative, that is not the question to me as much as
responsible or irresponsible for one's own actions.

Thanks,

Dick Sherwin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "'Chasuk'" <chasuk at gmail.com>; "'Matt Decker'" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:35 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Death Penalty Must Be Abolised


 > It is what people have been saying since Roe v. Wade.  It is NOT a matter
of
 > pro-abortion as much as it is a matter of pro-choice, a woman's right to
 > choose.
 >
 > Another saying I saw printed on a shirt a wile back that pretty much sums
it
 > up (I'm paraphrasing):
 >
 > "The clothes I am wearing are mine and so is everything in them."
 >
 > There is considerably excessive government influence in our private 
lives.
 >
 > When considering our government (and especially George Bush) - As 
Jonathon
 > Edwards said in the song "Sunshine":
 >
 > "He can't even run his own life,
 > I'll be damned if he'll run mine."
 >
 > Seeya round town, Moscow.
 >
 > Tom Hansen
 > Moscow, Idaho
 >
 > *******************************************************
 >
 > "If the law is to be respected it must first be respectable.  There will
 > never be respect for our laws without enforcement, equal enforcement."
 >
 > - Dick Sherwin (May 3, 2006)
 >
 > *******************************************************
 >
 >
 >
 > _____________________________________________________
 >  List services made available by First Step Internet,
 >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
 >                http://www.fsr.net
 >           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
 > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 >

_____________________________________________________
  List services made available by First Step Internet,
  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
                http://www.fsr.net
           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

_________________________________________________________________
Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® 
Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963