[Vision2020] Wayne's election comment

[keely emerinemix]

If there's evidence of voting fraud of any kind -- uncounted, 
double-counted, butterflied or written-in-hot-pink-gel-pen ballots -- then 
there should be an investigation.  If there is no real evidence, then the 
issue should be dropped immediately.  Fraud is a danger to our democracy; 
unsubstantiated rumors of fraud are equally so.

It's time to put up the evidence or put the issue to bed.

keely


From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wayne's election comment
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:49:05 -0800

James, et al,

There are other subscribers on this list who could give a less terse, more 
informative analysis of the problems of the last City of Moscow election 
than I briefly posted.  I talked to at least two of them last night.  Their 
words would carry much more weight than mine, hence I encourage them or 
others with the details to post.

This information about the egregious defects in the last city election is 
not a deep "state" secret although some of those involved might wish it to 
be.

The voting system needs to be fixed so that mistakes, cheating, and/or 
disenfranchisement have a much, much lower probability of occurring.  The 
place to start is on the local level.  I hope the Moscow City Council and 
the Latah County Commissioners have enough faith in the democratic process 
to invest the time, effort, and resources to attempt to provide for their 
constituents a near-to-perfect-as-possible voting system.  Soon.

Without each voter's vote counting exactly as they intended, it is a 
hypocritical farce to talk about choice and the democratic process.  If the 
numbers in the original post below are not a wake-up call, I am afraid that 
the battle is already lost to apathy.


Wayne A. Fox
1009 Karen Lane
PO Box 9421
Moscow, ID  83843

(208) 882-7975
waf at moscow.com


----- Original Message ----- From: "James Reynolds" 
<chapandmaize at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:11 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Wayne's election comment


>Morning Wayne,
>
>Could you elaborate on your accusation about the elections for Moscow City 
>Council members being tainted? Do you think there was a deliberate attempt 
>at fixing the results. I agree if we can't trust our local election results 
>then that should be our first priority rather than fretting about the 
>National elections.
>
>If we find someone cheating on the local level we could perhaps find a 
>quick remedy.
>
>James Reynolds
>Moscow
>
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bbonte at moscow.com:

Why even talk about fairness in national elections?

In the last City of Moscow election between 360 and 520 ballots were
allegedly not even counted.  Many that were counted were allegedly
miscounted.  In my opinion, seats on the city council were stolen from
Craine and Carscallen.

Until the sleepy electorate awakens and very loudly insists that systems are
put into place to insure that every voter's vote is correctly sensed and
correctly tallied, it is foolish and hypocritical to speak of the "will of
the people."

If we can't insure fair, accurate elections on the local level, what chance
is there of ever achieving them on the state and national level?

A mourner of democracy lost,

Wayne A. Fox
1009 Karen Lane
PO Box 9421
Moscow, ID  83843

(208) 882-7975
waf at moscow.com

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