[Vision2020] Animal Kingdom

[J Ford]

Not sure you understand the animal kingdom all that well.  Many, MANY 
species including birds and even some spiders have only one mate for their 
lifespan (given:  some female spiders eat their mate, but widowhood is a 
good reason to engage in multiple marriages, right?)

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

J  :]




>From: sean <o2design at wsu.edu>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Gay marriage......  an oxymoron......Polygamy???
>Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:37:08 -0800
>
>Can anyone comment on if polygamy falls under the same reasoning for 
>acceptance as same-sex marriages?  It seems quite natural (if other species 
>are the measure of "natural" for our species).  It, like other 
>relationships, can be equally consensual (though perhaps there are 
>documented coercive examples).
>
>While I may find the idea of a third set of hands of the wheel of our 
>family unsettling, why not for others?  Hey, there are days I'd appreciate 
>some guy mowing the lawn.  Maybe having another woman present to 
>commiserate w/ about the kids would be uplifting for my wife.
>
>Why all these artificial and unnatural limitations on marriages?
>
>s
>
>>
>>
>>On 2 Mar 2006, at 13:16, joekc at adelphia.net wrote:
>>
>>>Donovan,
>>>
>>>Good point. But the consequences of forbidding same-sex marriage go even 
>>>further still. My wife and I, Christian as we be, have no intention of 
>>>having children any longer. We have one wonderful son and that is all 
>>>we'd like to have. If you follow the anti-same-sex marriage arguments, 
>>>the web or irrationality is suddenly thrust on us, as well.
>>>
>>>At best, folks like Tony can only appeal to the Argument from Nature: 
>>>"Homosexuality"*™ is unnatural; therefore, it is immoral, or laws against 
>>>it are justified.
>>>
>>>This is as bad of an argument as there is. First, there is little reason 
>>>to accept the premise, given the prevalence of gays and lesbians in 
>>>society. Second, even if you accept the premise, there is little reason 
>>>to accept either conclusion. Flying in an airplane is unnatural. Is it 
>>>immoral? Should it be illegal? Again, once we begin to accept such 
>>>irrational arguments a rather wide net is cast, one that catches far more 
>>>than those originally intended.
>>>
>>>Iâ*™m against laws limiting marriage, for most of them are based on 
>>>general principles that would, if carried out to their full extent, 
>>>compromise my own choices and actions. I don't have to be gay to be 
>>>against them. The lesson to learn is that injustice anywhere is a threat 
>>>to freedom everywhere.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Joe Campbell
>>>
>>
>>Good points, all.  I would go further and point out that homosexual 
>>behavior is far from unnatural; it's actually quite common throughout the 
>>biological world.  I recommend the books "Biological Exuberance" and, for 
>>a humorous as well as a factual take on the whole matter, "Dr. Tatiana's 
>>Sex Advice for All Creation." Same-sex couplings among the higher orders 
>>are frequent and well documented.  The unnatural argument is nothing more 
>>than homophobia masquerading as science.  It's simply Toe-Knee-Time's way 
>>of saying "ick" without accepting the repercussions.
>>
>>Which brings me to a question:  Toe-Knee-Time, real person, troll, or 
>>instructions for doing the Hokey Pokey?
>>
>>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
>>www.joanopyr.com
>>
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>
>--
>Thanks,
>s
>
>
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>         Sean Michael
>         .dwg
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>
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