[Vision2020] ignorant Republican tactic

James Reynolds chapandmaize at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 2 08:29:44 PST 2006


That was much more like your old self Phil. Thanks, and I will get back to 
you. You bring ignorance to a new level but it is amusing reading your 
twisted illogical bull.

James

>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>To: chapandmaize at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ignorant Republican tactic
>Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:08:22 -0800
>
>Other than avoiding talking about anything related to any posting of mine 
>Jamie boyo, what exactly is your mindless driveling about?
>
>I was referring to Congressional Hearings that were prior to Ken Starr on 
>actions of Federal Agencies that were indeed breaking the law.  Is the ACLU 
>mindless Republicans?  Do you think that warrantless searches or private 
>property are good things?  Do you think that things like the Clipper Chip 
>were wonders to behold?  Was it A OK with you that domestic spying budgets 
>grew by over 30% per year under Reno's Justice Department?
>
>Rather than deal with the issue at hand, that members of the Clinton 
>Administration did indeed wire tap and conduct domestic spying operations 
>on opponents of their domestic policy, you jump to a complete different 
>post in which I was addressing Hansen's cheering on a call for poison 
>gassing people of other political beliefs than his.  If you can not see the 
>parallel between calls for open season on Republicans, skinning of human 
>beings and broadcast gassing of Republicans and Nazi Propaganda calling for 
>similar treatment for Jews, than you sir are a bigger idiot than your 
>average moron.
>
>I, by the way, mentioned Watergate.  I mentioned it because it has 
>probative value.  I noted that you jumped right on my mention of Watergate 
>to suggest that Bush be immediately impeached.  That was drivel as well.  I 
>said and the record is pretty clear, that the impeachment of Clinton was a 
>stupid costly and wasteful procedure and disruptive of managing the nation. 
>  How the hell you go from there to claims that I have it out for Bill 
>Clinton is anybody's guess.  Let’s see, Phil did not support Starr and 
>impeachment of Clinton so he must be a Clinton Hater stupid GOP mindless 
>drone?
>
>As for your final comment, you need some serious diversity training.  Maybe 
>Melynda can hook you up.
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
>
>
>>From: "James Reynolds" <chapandmaize at hotmail.com>
>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ignorant Republican tactic
>>Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:27:33 -0800
>>
>>Well Phil that wasn't to bad for you. I was expecting you to say that my 
>>next move was to destroy the Jews. You are still full of crap. Starr 
>>looked at everything there was possible to indict the Clinton's. All of 
>>the accusations against the Clintons were found to be without merit. Just 
>>because a bunch of "Contract against America folK" made a bunch of false 
>>accusations as an attempt to spoil his Presidency doesn't mean anything. 
>>Lawful deliberations found the accusations to be false. It is simple as 
>>that.
>>
>>And as for calling you a stupid Republican buddy, you are in the class of 
>>a small minority of Republicans that do behave stupidly. You live your 
>>life with the Rove mentality of avoiding the issues and making up fact to 
>>suit your own political purpose at the expense of our country. Clinton has 
>>not been president for many years now. He really doesn't matter any more 
>>what-so-ever. The only reason you constantly bring him up is to baffle 
>>with bull. How would it be if every time you said something, everyone just 
>>said Iran-Contra or Watergate?
>>
>>You can support whatever politics you want to but at least deal with the 
>>issues honestly and quit pulling your Jew pity card.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>>>To: chapandmaize at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ignorant Republican tactic
>>>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 23:09:03 -0800
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>Now you are proving yourself to be a complete raving looney.
>>>
>>>If you bother to go to the record, you will find that both I and Lemhi 
>>>County Sheriff Bret Barsalou testified before House and Senate Committees 
>>>on illegal surveliance.  The hearings were covered by the papers, so you 
>>>should not have to tough a time finding them.  If you want copies of the 
>>>papers from the time period I will be glad to provide them.
>>>
>>>I suggested off line that if you needed proof from a source other than a 
>>>Republican that you can call Jackson Hole Attorney and Liberal Democrat 
>>>Gerry Spence.  Gerry is a strong Civil Libertarian and has handled a lot 
>>>of case involving misconduct by Federal law enforcement during that time 
>>>frame.
>>>
>>>Similarly, the ACLU handled a large number of cases during that time 
>>>frame involving wire tapping on domestic targets.  If you read what they 
>>>had to say, they claimed that of 2.1 million phone conversation recorded 
>>>by the DOJ from 1993-1995, 1.5 million of the calls were not related to 
>>>any law enforcement purpose.
>>>
>>>I testified at the hearings in Boise and Bret before both the committee 
>>>in Boise and the ones in DC.  I may even have tape recording of Bret's 
>>>testimony in DC if you care to watch it.
>>>
>>>Bret testified that not only were illegal activities occurring, but that 
>>>when he tried to call a halt to actions by certain Federal Agents doing 
>>>warrantless searches, he received threatening phone calls for DOJ.  Its 
>>>part of the Congressional record, but hey, go back to old copies of the 
>>>Idaho Statesman and I am sure that you can read a blow by blow free of 
>>>GOP taint if that’s your trip.
>>>
>>>You see, James, you are not willing to accept that your team is corrupt.  
>>>I am only too willing to admit that there are members of the GOP who 
>>>think themselves above the law and only to willing if and when they are 
>>>found guilty of such actions to see them punished to the full extent of 
>>>the law.  But you are unwilling to accept that even one Liberal Democrat 
>>>would tap a phone, spy on GOP opponents, try to quash local law 
>>>enforcement whistle blowing on such action or any of the rest.
>>>
>>>You want to call half of America, the GOP half; scum and idiots, then 
>>>suggest that we all work together.  Why exactly are we going to work with 
>>>somebody who calls us all liars and scum bags?
>>>
>>>Frankly James, you are a small person who does not do his own research 
>>>and can only mouth the responses that somebody else feeds you.  Wake up 
>>>and read some things from something other than one of your partisan 
>>>websites.  Nobody is clean in politics, not you hero Bill Clinton, or 
>>>Albert Gore, or Janet Reno for certain.
>>>
>>>Now, bring me a case of the Bush administration conducting wire tapping 
>>>without warrant on a US Citizen in a domestic political matter, not the 
>>>current cases that involve overseas calls and foreign subjects and 
>>>national security, but tapping the phones of voters who disagree with the 
>>>Bush Administration in domestic politics.  A congressional hearing, an 
>>>FBI file, some sort of proof please and not the nattering you seem to do 
>>>so well.
>>>
>>>Phil Nisbet
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "James Reynolds" <chapandmaize at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: [Vision2020] ignorant Republican tactic
>>>>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:36:48 -0800
>>>>
>>>>The tactic of the Republican party of baffling everyone with bull was 
>>>>demonstrated by both Phil and Pat today on this list.
>>>>
>>>>Their ignorant little Swift boat tactic is not only stupid and 
>>>>unproductive but it is getting awfully old besides.... as in tiresome.
>>>>
>>>>When Phil reads  my post that mentioned Bushes' illegal wire taps he 
>>>>babbles about some make believe wire tapping conspiracy against him by 
>>>>the Clinton administration. Of course this is the first time anyone has 
>>>>heard of it, while Kenneth Starr spent 5 years digging up dirt on the 
>>>>Clintons for the Republican party. When I asked for proof of this great 
>>>>conspiracy (off list), none was offered....I just got more outlandish 
>>>>babble about more unsubstantiated conspiracies committed by the Clintons 
>>>>and Janet Reno.
>>>>
>>>>It has become their natural instinct to lie and mislead to win a 
>>>>contrived argument that means nothing. It is time for you childess 
>>>>little children of Bush to realize the facts of your chosen ass of a 
>>>>president and pull your heads out of the republican handbook (read Rove) 
>>>>of devious maneuverings and become grownups that deal with the truth. 
>>>>The crap you spew is getting our country nowhere but the wrong place.
>>>>
>>>>Pat, the other follower of the Rove tactic goes off protecting Bushes 
>>>>attack on our constitution by ranting about throw away cell phones and 
>>>>how they make it OK to illegally spy on American citizens. The CIA said 
>>>>that none of the taps have given then anything but dead end leads to 
>>>>pizza delivery boys and such and yet Pat claims that they only;y tap 
>>>>overseas calls. Then Pat in her simple minded way goes on to say that I 
>>>>don't understand the complexities of the world. A stupid remark if there 
>>>>ever was.
>>>>
>>>>Like I said before "My Momma says the only thing more stupid than a 
>>>>republican is more than one Republican"  these two clowns epitomize what 
>>>>my momma said.
>>>>
>>>>Once again I will say the fact that Bush has run our country down in so 
>>>>many ways is not about Clinton vs. Bush nor is it about Democrats vs. 
>>>>Republicans; it is about the American people vs. a government 
>>>>nonresponsive to its citizens needs or desires. It is about a government 
>>>>that is deliberately placing the country in an impossible debt situation 
>>>>to where we spend almost as much on interest on the accumulated debt as 
>>>>we do our defense. It is about a government that has delivered the loss 
>>>>of our strategic manufacturing sector. We all know the long list of 
>>>>grievances we have against this government, I won't pile them up here, 
>>>>but I will once again mention that this President and his VP as well as 
>>>>his cabinet deceived the American people and congress to take us to a 
>>>>war that is still escalating....still sending our young people home in 
>>>>body bags and savagely wounded. We have to get rid of this mess and get 
>>>>America back on the right track. Enough bullshit and deception, lets 
>>>>work together to save our country.
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