[Vision2020] Eavesdropping

[Phil Nisbet]

Hansen

There were ACLU suits undertaken in 1993-94 to curtail those actions and 
Congressinal hearings on them in 1994 and 1996.  You would have been blind 
deaf or dumb not to have known at the time about plans that were floated for 
things like the Clipper Chip or the fact that under Reno's DOJ wire tapping 
of domestic targets grew at an annual rate of 33%.  Her year 2000 budget 
request included close to a billion dollars for domestic wire tapping.

Google Janet Reno, Justice Department, wire tapping.  You will get 173,000 
documents, many of them press reports on warrantless searchs and taps and 
complaints about their use to do domestic spying.  There are whole books on 
the subject.

I would suppose that because the targets were people you did not like you 
thought it A OK so did not bother reading about it at the time.

Phil Nisbet


>From: "Tom Hansen" <idahotom at hotmail.com>
>To: pkraut at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>CC: idahotom at hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Eavesdropping
>Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:51:29 -0800
>
>Ms. Kraut -
>
>I believe that Mr. Reynolds is suggesting that Mr. Nisbet relay his claim 
>of beinig a "victim" of warrantless wiretaps to the media.  A claim, such 
>as Mr. Nisbet's (that he was unlawfully wiretapped by the Department of 
>Justice during the Clinton administration), would certainly draw some well 
>deserved attention.
>
>If my residence were unlawfully wiretapped by the Department of Justice I 
>most certainly would not wait a considerable length of time only to discuss 
>it on V2020.
>
>Ms. Kraut goes on to ask:
>
>"If a person can buy a throw away cell phone in a store (maybe a[t] Wally 
>World!) use if for the two hours there is time for talk about bombs and 
>then the number is no longer good how do you think they should get a 
>warrant?"
>
>You know something, Ms. Kraut:  Over the past couple years when I flew down 
>to visit my parents in Los Angeles, and before I purchased a cell phone, I 
>made use of those throw-away cell phones.  They are inexpense and handy.
>
>Is it your belief that "they" should have detained me simply because I had 
>a throw-away cell phone?  Should "they" detain everybody that uses those 
>throw-away cell phones?
>
>You see, Ms. Kraut, there is a reason why our founding fathers were kind 
>enough to bless our private lives with the US Constitution's fourth 
>amendment.
>
>But then, George Bush is not only above the law, HE IS THE LAW and, as 
>everybody knows, . . .
>
>"The law is for protection of the people."
>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/Protection.mp3
>
>"Ah, so thank your lucky stars you got protection
>Walk the line and never mind the cost.
>Don't wonder who them lawmen was protectin',
>When they nailed the saviour to the cross."
>
>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>
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