[Vision2020] Your Wal-Mart Opponents Hypocrisy

[Donovan Arnold]

Joe,
  
 Can you please explain to me how it is that you can buy  plastics and gasoline from countries like Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi  Arabia etc, that have the worst human rights record in the world, yet  at the same time scorn Wal-Mart for buying products from other  businesses that manufacture their goods in China?
  
 If you  believe that countries with bad human rights records should be denied  jobs, and believe the US kills innocents overseas, then why are you not  for exporting US jobs to countries with better human rights records  then our own?
  
  _DJA

joekc at adelphia.net wrote:  Tony,

It is simply beautiful how much conservatives have to make up in order to make a point! 

Did  I say anything about shutting down Wal-Mart? We already have a  Wal-Mart. Did I say anything about boycotting it? I'm not trying to  eliminate Wal-Mart from the community. I just don't want them to put a  Super Wal-Mart 1/2 mile from my house. There is a difference, right?

Don't  you find it just a little troubling that the USA is, on the one hand,  willing to invade a country because of human rights violations (this is  the second justification given, after we failed to find WMDs) yet, on  the other hand, we have absolutely no problem having other countries  who are guilty of human rights violations manufacture our goods as long  as we can save a few bucks in the process? I find it troubling and I'd  like to do something about it. As much as I can, anyway (which is  likely not a whole lot!).

To me, Wal-Mart is a symbol of our  country's inconsistent values. If we want to right ourselves it has to  start somewhere and I'm starting with them.

But that is not the  only reason that I don't want a Super Wal-Mart 1/2 mile from my house.  Another reason is that Wal-Marts are just plain ugly. I'd rather  encourage more beauty in the town and less ugliness.

In case  you're keeping track that is two values that I care about over and  above economic values: moral values and aesthetic values.

Lastly,  a Super Wal-Mart located on the east side of town is just continuing to  follow the bass ackwards thinking of the previous town council. The old  thinking was "Build the houses on the East Side and then solve the  eventual traffic problems!" The new thinking will be "Solve the  existing traffic problems first and then think about building -- and  what to build." It is just called planning ahead. It is what we lecture  our kids about and it is high time the city govenment started adopting  that advice.

I'm interested to know what you think my real reasons are, by the way!

Best, Joe

---- ToeKneeTime at aol.com wrote: 

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Joe,
 
I see.  We are attempting to shut down Walmart because we must "start  
somewhere".  Why then throw the baby out with the bath water?  Why not  simply press 
Walmart and presumably, all these other oppressive corporations, to  stop 
acquiring their goods from countries that exploit laborers?  Why  advocate the 
wholesale elimination of the business from the community?  And  with regard to 
wages, these are the prevailing wages as set by the marketplace  and federal 
edict.  Further, these employees in question, would probably  just as soon 
retain their jobs.  If you care so intimately for their  welfare, why would you 
push to eliminate their employer.  Somethin' don't  add up, Joe.  Come on, what 
is your REAL motivation?  Or is it even  conscious?
 
Best,  Tony

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