[Vision2020] Good sport? No!

Fri Jun 23 11:15:57 PDT 2006

Look, little man - I was bringing up concerns that I felt needed to be 
aired.  If you don't have anything valid or contributory to offer, why don't 
you just sit down on the big couch in front of the big tv and watch the big 
game?  Or better yet, why don't you go clean out your beard.......it looks 
more like a food-catch-all than a facial feature to be proud of.

You are not funny and you certainly do not have this community's interest in 
mind when you post this kind of clap-trap.

Gabe has made some major errors while being the "security coordinator" for 
this event.  The concerns of the people involved have been and apparently 
will continue to be ignored by him and the rest of the "gang".  This does 
NOT speak well for your organization nor for the "christian" way you are 
supposed to be operating.

He has less than one month and a few days before this thing goes...he has 
YET to even contact the businesses in the CBD, much less "coordinate" 
anything that would relay any sense of confidence to the community regarding 
it.

I felt his presentation and affect during his talk on Monday as well as 
other times he has come before a City Committee, was totally unprofessional, 
did NOT come across as being confident and lacked a great deal of 
information that could have prevented ANYone from asking questions or at 
least fewer ones.  I don't see why this type of permit, which effects all of 
us TAX PAYING citizens can not be brought before the public and our input be 
listened to.  You don't agree with that - fine.

Don't accuse me of something you have NO knowledge of nor has any basis of 
fact to back it up.  You don't even know me.  (Yes, I know - that has never 
stopped you people from being stupid before.)

Now, I am sure there must be something on ESPN you could be 
watching.......................

J  :]

>From: "Taro Tanaka" <taro_tanaka at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Good sport: entertaining J Ford's questions with 
>theseriousness they deserve
>Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:18:10 +0000
>
>Let others blather mindlessly about sports. I, for one, shall be a good 
>sport and entertain J Ford's questions with the seriousness they deserve.
>
>Question 1:  Was he aware of the complaints last year (as he specifically 
>stated on Monday) or was he not?
>
>Answer 1: That is correct.
>
>Question 2:  Are they not valid simply because he may not have been aware 
>of them?  He says several time in his statement that he does not feel they 
>(the complaints) are valid because he did not know about them until "they 
>were brought to the table a couple of weeks ago."
>
>Answer 2: The bad news is, the statute of limitations has run out on last 
>year's complaints. The good news is, there is still plenty of time to get 
>in your reservations for this year's complaints. Be a good citizen! -- 
>complain early, complain often.
>
>Question 3:  WHAT account?  What does that mean?
>
>Answer 3: That "account" means *causality.* You can read it as, "I assume 
>you want us to have 2 Moscow PC officers *because of* Credenda Agenda."
>
>Question 4:  Why in this world would you "assume" the City Council wants 2 
>MPD?  Assumptions are based on knowledge, to some extent, and so I am 
>wondering just what his "assume"ing is based upon.
>
>Answer 4: No, if assumptions were *based on* knowledge, they would not be 
>assumptions. Assumptions are things that you simply *asssume* to be true. 
>Knowledge is based on assumptions (i.e., faith), not the other way around.
>
>Question 5a:  Did anyone ask Moscow Hotel if they want *his* security 
>guards "permanently" stationed on their steps?
>
>Answer 5a: No, but since 9/11 such measures have unfortunately become 
>necessary for security. Your kind understanding and cooperation are greatly 
>appreciated.
>
>Question 5b:  Since Gabe is denying there was a problem last year in 
>regards to the access issue, and he had security guards there LAST year, 
>what makes it any better this year, to set the situation up the same way?
>
>Answer 5b: It must be granted that setting the situation up the same way as 
>last year does not make it any better this year. It only makes it "just as 
>good," which is okay insofar as there was no problem last year.
>
>Question 6:  Just how many "security guards" will be stationed around the 
>play area to guard the children from interacting with people who have/will 
>be drinking?
>
>Answer 6: This information cannot be divulged for security reasons, but it 
>will be an adequate number. There are also ample numbers of highly trained 
>yet fresh reservists that can be called up in the event an unexpectedly 
>large number of paedocommunionists show up.
>
>Question 7:  Just what kind of training or experience will these "security 
>guards" have that would enable them to spot a person, much less take care 
>of a person, that has partaken a bit too much of what the beer/wind garden 
>will be offering?
>
>Answer 7: This information too cannot be divulged for security reasons, but 
>suffice it to say that key personnel in charge of training are former 
>members of elite U.S. military special forces drinking teams. A few country 
>bumpkins, even armed with six-packs of Sam Adams, are no match for these 
>guys.
>
>Question 8:  How many drinks will any one person or persons be allowed to 
>buy during the evening and who is going to say "enough"?
>
>Answer 8: People shall be permitted drinks only up to the limit, and not 
>one drink beyond the limit shall be permitted.
>
>Question 9:  Is there any reason this event could not have been held in the 
>East Side Park, where the beer/wind garden could be placed at a safer 
>distance from the children's play area?
>
>Answer 9: Yes, there is a reason: an increased distance in the other 
>location would not be "safer."
>
>Question 10:  Why is it that this issue is not opened to a public hearing 
>so that those with LEGITIMATE concerns can be heard before you allow this 
>type of event to be given a green light?
>
>Answer 10: Legitimate concerns like the ones you are expressing here? To 
>ask the question is to answer it. Why don't you pour yourself a stiff drink 
>or three, pop a few Prozacs, and then we can talk when you are no longer 
>hyperventilating.
>
>Question 11:  Why not put out a resolution that any beer/wine request for 
>ANY City Park be open to public comment?
>
>Answer 11: Do you mind if we offer up libations to the gods while we hear 
>these public comments?
>
>It seems to me that the added traffic issues, the noise issues and the 
>possible DWI issues an event like this is likely to create dictates the 
>public's interests and concerns should be heard by the City Council before 
>it just grants an event like this "carte blanche."
>
>Don't worry, as far as profitless increased traffic and noise issues are 
>concerned, your pre-emptive fret-fest already far outstrips anything the 
>Trinity Fest itself causes. Keep it up and the Trinity Fest will seem staid 
>and quiet by comparison. As for intoxication, I'd like to know what you've 
>been ingesting that makes your mind produce the above questions. You should 
>stay away from controlled substances.
>
>-- Princess Sushitushi
>
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