[Vision2020] Grinding Giers.......

[keely emerinemix]

Nick Gier has no need for me to defend him.  His body of work, even when I 
disagree with its conclusions, has earned him the regard of his peers in 
academia, and his character, which I always have found to be rock-solid and 
marked with abundant kindness, has earned him the affection of those who 
know him.

He is also bi-pedal and has symmetrical eyes, ears, and nostrils.  As far as 
I can tell, that's about all he and Tony have in common.

I make these points for one reason, which I suspect most Visionaires have 
already concluded:  The primary difference between Nick Gier and Tony 
Simpson is not that they have utterly different views of the legitimacy and 
purpose of the war in Iraq.  The difference between the two is that while 
Nick tries, largely in vain, to engage Tony with fact, reasoning, 
information, perspective and an appeal to human decency, Tony farts in 
emails, refers to terrorists as "ragheads," and gleefully calls the man 
attempting to engage him in debate a "looney toon leftist."

Any hope of reasonable dialogue, then, appears largely impossible unless 
Tony goes vegan, breathes deeply before starting on the keyboard, and trusts 
in his command of the facts surrounding the war, or unless Nick starts . . . 
I don't know . . . munching on pork rinds while listening to Rush.

I guess I'm not holding my breath, but I sure would appreciate hearing a 
reasoned, impassioned, civil and fact-filled post from someone who supports 
the war.  Burritos are, I think, entirely optional.

keely






From: ToeKneeTime at aol.com
To: nickgier at adelphia.net
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020]  Grinding Giers.......
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:07:01 EDT

Once again a certain professor emeritus on this list has had the audacity  
to
ask another stupid question.

Before I continue, I beg your indulgence....   BRAAAP!     Sorry, chili
burrito for lunch.

Now then, this loony toon leftist keeps begging to be informed as to what  
is
going right in Iraq.  As there are any number of positive developments,  I 
am
happy to educate him.

1)  Saddam Hussein is no longer at large.  He was a direct threat  to this
country given his attempt in the early nineties to assassinate our  
President.

2)  His murdering, sociopathic sons are rotting in their graves like  so 
many
of their victims.

3)  America's standing in the world is being enhanced by Bush's
determination to take it to the terrorists rather than dick around in 
response  to attacks
as past administrations have.

4)  That head--lopping butcher, Al Zarquawi (spell?) is rotting in  hell as
he so richly deserves.

5)  Iraq's infrastructure is being rebuilt a piece at a time, schools,
roads, power grids and etc.

6)  Iraq recently held its first free election in 4 decades.  The  Iraqi
people are just beginning to breath free after 40 years of terrifying
dictatorship, torture, rape, mass killings etc.

7)  A small, sprig of freedom and modernity has been planted in the  middle
east, thanks to this administration.

Whether this sprig grows to encompass the entire middle east over the next
couple decades, or withers to a brittle twig and dies, depends on who wins 
the
battle for the hearts and minds of the American people.  On one side are
loyal and proud Americans; on the other, the liberal community.

And one last thing, Teach:  President Bush did not lead those two
unfortunate GI's to their deaths as you so ignorantly cluck.  Some  
murderous rag--head
terrorists did!

Setting academia's subversives strait,       --TONY






=====================================================
  List services made available by First Step Internet,
  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
                http://www.fsr.net
           mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
====================================================

_________________________________________________________________
Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! 
http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/