[Vision2020] Photos Tell All

Wed Jun 21 23:37:12 PDT 2006

Visionatics,

This thread is really starting to get me worried, as it is clear that 
they're on to my master plan...

...and when I get worried, I talk about baseball. So how about those 
Mariners, eh? Inter-league play has been very, very good for the hometown 9 
(or 25); they are 8-0 against the NL West, and they go for a second 
consecutive sweep tomorrow. Also, if the M's win tomorrow, they will have 
attained that hallowed ground know as .500. They haven't done that this late 
in the season since 2003.

Give a shout out if you feel it!

Regards,

Deacon Jim

P.S. Is that Klingon?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Photos Tell All

> An fear domhan críochnóidh mé amárach feic sin siad críochnóidh mé amárach 
> nae tháinig a lá ádh agus críochnóidh mé amárach imigh is maith liom an 
> fear cúr a abhainn.
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> J  :]
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> (The world will see that they won't have a day's luck and will disappear 
> like the froth of the river.)
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>>From: "Michael" <metzler at moscow.com>
>>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: [Vision2020] Photos Tell All
>>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:17:07 -0700
>>
>>Rob,
>>
>>
>>
>>For a little background: You directed your insults my direction not long
>>ago, but in more direct fashion.  You and I were friends.  I had you over 
>>to
>>my house for dinner.  I employed you and we worked together a bit.  We
>>talked about business, your life aspirations, your current work, your
>>history. I offered you nothing but kindness and hospitality.  Then one day 
>>I
>>started a web site and I was criticizing your pastor's slander of another
>>minister-continuing an already public discussion.  You jumped on without 
>>any
>>notice or private communication and began mocking me, ridiculing sincere
>>comments, and intentionally breaking the very rules I laid out for posting
>>to my private web site. This response here is the first time you have
>>treated me like a human being, and you have not initiated any private
>>correspondence with me throughout all this.  Not only is this not 
>>Christian
>>behavior, this is not sociological normal within stable civilizations
>>generally speaking; i.e., the 'pagans' usually do far better than this.
>>
>>
>>
>>It is not hard to see the Kirk edge here either, albeit in more subtle,
>>creative form.  This is a community, public, forum; this is not a three 
>>way
>>call between three junior-high jocks.  When posting, folks make sure the
>>content of the post is coherent-which is politeness to any reader trying 
>>to
>>figure out if there is something generally of interest to read.  When
>>posting, folks also insure that the content of the post matches Subject
>>title for convenience to the general readership.  Folks are also polite
>>enough to choose a different subject title when they decide to post on
>>something entirely different than the current topic of discussion. You and
>>your associates know all of this, which is why you are posting the way you
>>do, intentionally breaking all of these norms.  You do so not to 
>>illustrate
>>a productive point or to encourage anyone to truth or good deeds; rather,
>>you do so to vandalize a forum that you consider a threat and a nuisance.
>>As one kirker explained, Vision 2020 is a slew of shit and I was an idiot
>>for even talking to the people who post to it.  Wilson has sought to get 
>>it
>>exterminated, and refers to this forum as "moonbats" and "Purblind." Most
>>kirkers will at least call it Venom2020.  I can't speak for others, but I
>>know that I would prefer profanity and name calling to someone 
>>high-jacking
>>the threads that I tried to generate, particularly when I know it is 
>>because
>>they have no respect for me and do not like what I am talking about. None 
>>of
>>you even experiment in offering kindness or understanding to your 
>>opponents,
>>nor do you give simple rational discourse a chance.  I was of course
>>referring all of the kirkers engaging in this new practice.
>>
>>
>>
>>If you think that the arguments Tom and J Ford have presented regarding 
>>the
>>pictures are unsound, feel free to point this out in a way that gives 
>>other
>>people a reason to read your posting under the thread generated by these
>>arguments.  And again, I'm sad to see you spend your time on this list in
>>such a way when there is currently an apologetic discussion about 
>>submission
>>and the gospel going on. That would typically be far more interesting to 
>>the
>>typical evangelical Christian.
>>
>>
>>
>>I hope that helps explain.  Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>
>>
>>
>>Michael
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>>Mike
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>>Who did I insult?
>>
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>>
>>Jackie provided a link to the Trinity Fest pictures on the Trinity Fest
>>web-page . . .they are fun pictures, and not very controversial.
>>
>>
>>
>>Rob
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