[Vision2020] Photos Tell All

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 21 22:16:34 PDT 2006


An fear domhan críochnóidh mé amárach feic sin siad críochnóidh mé amárach 
nae tháinig a lá ádh agus críochnóidh mé amárach imigh is maith liom an fear 
cúr a abhainn.



J  :]



(The world will see that they won't have a day's luck and will disappear 
like the froth of the river.)



>From: "Michael" <metzler at moscow.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: [Vision2020] Photos Tell All
>Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:17:07 -0700
>
>Rob,
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>For a little background: You directed your insults my direction not long
>ago, but in more direct fashion.  You and I were friends.  I had you over 
>to
>my house for dinner.  I employed you and we worked together a bit.  We
>talked about business, your life aspirations, your current work, your
>history. I offered you nothing but kindness and hospitality.  Then one day 
>I
>started a web site and I was criticizing your pastor's slander of another
>minister-continuing an already public discussion.  You jumped on without 
>any
>notice or private communication and began mocking me, ridiculing sincere
>comments, and intentionally breaking the very rules I laid out for posting
>to my private web site. This response here is the first time you have
>treated me like a human being, and you have not initiated any private
>correspondence with me throughout all this.  Not only is this not Christian
>behavior, this is not sociological normal within stable civilizations
>generally speaking; i.e., the 'pagans' usually do far better than this.
>
>
>
>It is not hard to see the Kirk edge here either, albeit in more subtle,
>creative form.  This is a community, public, forum; this is not a three way
>call between three junior-high jocks.  When posting, folks make sure the
>content of the post is coherent-which is politeness to any reader trying to
>figure out if there is something generally of interest to read.  When
>posting, folks also insure that the content of the post matches Subject
>title for convenience to the general readership.  Folks are also polite
>enough to choose a different subject title when they decide to post on
>something entirely different than the current topic of discussion. You and
>your associates know all of this, which is why you are posting the way you
>do, intentionally breaking all of these norms.  You do so not to illustrate
>a productive point or to encourage anyone to truth or good deeds; rather,
>you do so to vandalize a forum that you consider a threat and a nuisance.
>As one kirker explained, Vision 2020 is a slew of shit and I was an idiot
>for even talking to the people who post to it.  Wilson has sought to get it
>exterminated, and refers to this forum as "moonbats" and "Purblind." Most
>kirkers will at least call it Venom2020.  I can't speak for others, but I
>know that I would prefer profanity and name calling to someone high-jacking
>the threads that I tried to generate, particularly when I know it is 
>because
>they have no respect for me and do not like what I am talking about. None 
>of
>you even experiment in offering kindness or understanding to your 
>opponents,
>nor do you give simple rational discourse a chance.  I was of course
>referring all of the kirkers engaging in this new practice.
>
>
>
>If you think that the arguments Tom and J Ford have presented regarding the
>pictures are unsound, feel free to point this out in a way that gives other
>people a reason to read your posting under the thread generated by these
>arguments.  And again, I'm sad to see you spend your time on this list in
>such a way when there is currently an apologetic discussion about 
>submission
>and the gospel going on. That would typically be far more interesting to 
>the
>typical evangelical Christian.
>
>
>
>I hope that helps explain.  Let me know if you have any further questions.
>
>
>
>Michael
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>Mike
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>Who did I insult?
>
>
>
>Jackie provided a link to the Trinity Fest pictures on the Trinity Fest
>web-page . . .they are fun pictures, and not very controversial.
>
>
>
>Rob
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>


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