[Vision2020] submission

[keely emerinemix]

Birthing children "at the rate of a Pez dispenser" has to be one of the 
funniest things I've read in a long, long time.  Yikes!

keely


From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: "'keely emerinemix'" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, <lfalen at turbonet.com>,        
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] submission
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:46:19 -0700

I agree, Keely -

In contrast to what some V2020 subscribers would like you to believe, in my
opinion sex is NOT what bonds a marriage together.

Love for each other, trust in each other, loyalty to each other, and
willingness to compromise is what has held this marriage firmly together for
the past 33 years.

But then, each marriage is different.

Perhaps there are a few marriages that are successful because the man keeps
his "woman" on a short leash, not ours.

Perhaps there are a few marriages that are successful based on the wife's
ability to deliver children at the rate of a Pez dispenser, not ours.

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

  "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used
up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"

-----Original Message-----

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of keely emerinemix
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:52 PM
To: lfalen at turbonet.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] submission

Other than my belief that marriage should be not a 50-50, but 100%-100%,
proposition, I find myself agreeing with much of Roger's post.
"Submission," properly understood, is what he's describing, his discomfort
with the word notwithstanding.  Whip-cracking insistence on obedience isn't
Biblical, and obedience that results from it isn't submission.

keely


From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
Reply-To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] submission
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:16:07 -0700

There has bee a lot of discussion on submission from a biblical prospective.

I don't chose to discuss it in that context.
One should submit to a higher authority on the job or in the military, with
in the bounds of what is ethical and moral. Marriage
should be a 50-50 deal. One partner should not be subservient to the other.
Each one should support the others interests  be it horses, 4-H, politics,
gardening, etc, whether they are particularly wild about it or not. Around
the house I usually do thing my wife's way. If it pleases her that makes me
happy. This is not being submissive. It is getting along and respecting your

spouse. We both work. I usually do the day to day cooking, she does the big
family dinners, she usually does the laundry, we both clean house and take
care of the livestock. A marriage should be a give and take situation. No
one should be dominant or submissive.

Roger

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