[Vision2020] Victims

[heirdoug at netscape.net]

Comeon Deacon, Deacon:

Didn't you know the secret decoder ring that you got in that box of 
"Blinkies" tells you that one of the rules of professional philosophers 
(and their wannabe grad students) is why say in 5 words what you can 
expound in 50. As to straight answers to simple questions. They first 
justify their extreamly long answer with how they have been victomized 
themselves. Then they proceed onto the less important area of answering 
your question.

lemeno, Doug






Hmm. Lots of words, little content. Oh, well. I guess I shouldn't have 
asked for a straight answer.

That reminds me. Mark Prior's return to the Cubs rotation on Sunday was 
less exciting than the Chicago faithful had hoped. He pitched 3 2/3 
innings, giving up 8 runs, which led to a 12-3 Detroit rout. Apparently 
the Cubs fans left their class at home, as Prior left to a chorus of 
boos from the Wrigley Field crowd of nearly 40,000.

Take care,

Deacon "Deacon" James
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From: Michael <metzler at moscow.com>
Date: Mon Jun 19 14:40:40 CDT 2006
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Victims


Deacon Writes:

Don't hold out, dude.Please elaborate. I am sure everybody would love 
to know the nature and(perhaps more importantly) the tone of these 
conversations you've had. Just howcongenial was it?

Seriously.


Deacon,

Thank you for theinquiry.  I have been lied about and slandered in 
countless ways,particularly over the last week and a half, so I'll just 
assume this hassomething to do with your curiosity.  I won't speak 
about anyone butmyself: I was very calm, gracious, and congenial.  My 
wife stood by mewriting down notes of advice how to handle the 
conversation, which helped. I was encouraged to recontact them and I 
encouraged them to contact me with anyfurther concerns. The 
conversation was mildly productive. But again, Wilson's use of 
thevictims since then has been horrifying, and I don't want to give 
thewrong impression while trying to mitigate any discussion of victims 
that Ibelieve the victims should have a say in whether or not a 
community issufficiently notified of the presence of a serial 
pedophile. And again, to thevictim's credit, they did not have a 
problem with the publicannouncement. Their greatest concern was the 
fact that I publicly stated thatmy wife found out via "a relative of 
the victim" in the course ofposting Wilson'saggressive emails to me and 
my replies.  I did not believe this was areasonable concern, and so I 
have offered no apology; although I have offeredmy warm sympathy in 
general. The overarching concern was really over thegeneral nature of 
Pooh's Think, which is obviously not something I wasinclined to discuss 
very much.  The bottom line is this: I posted thepublic announcement; 
in doing this, folks at CC have deceived in such a way asto make me out 
to be as immoral as a pedophile for doing so, even though thevictims 
did not even have a complaint and agreed that the community could 
havebeen better informed (to their credit). The only reason I was drug 
into anyfurther discussion about this issue was because of my 
encouragement for someoneto stop referencing the victims on Vision 2020 
and because of Wilson's immediate, vicious attack onme, which did not 
relent for a number of days.  The story line is prettyclear and simple. 
As for any possible false information on my web site: afterposting the 
announcement, I immediately requested that Wilson provide any 
corrections and that Iwould edit my post and offer public apologies for 
any wrong information.  Wilson refused to providethese corrections, but 
rather lied about claimed "public and assessable"documents that I could 
have found in five minutes if I had merely tried.  Asfor releasing 
private information about the victims: I never did this on my website; 
but Wilsondid right here on Vision 2020 two times.

Hope that helpsDeacon.  Let me know if you have any further questions.

Yours,
Michael