[Vision2020] AGAIN! The punishment does not fit the crime

Fri Jun 9 10:39:58 PDT 2006

Andreas,

 If a convicted and self confessed child offender was  caught in the act of talking alone with a little girl and in violation  of his probation, I would hope to God they would get some time. I think  there should be little tolerance for that type of behavior. They are  released on Probation under that auspices that they will behave and  stay away from children in the community.

 Thanks for letting  me know this. I think I am in agreement with Phil and Hansen on this  issue. If the law is not going to throw the book at these criminals  when they clearly are violating their prohibition, let us just lock  them up good and tight then-it just isn't worth the risk. 

  _DJA

Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:  On 6/9/06, Donovan Arnold  wrote:
> Hansen,
>
>  You don't need to send us every email three times.
>
>
>  You wrote:
>
>  "If, on some Friday afternoon while at the Palouse Mall, you should see
>  Sitler in the parking lot talking with a grade school girl (perhaps that
>  girl is a relative [no need for alarm], perhaps not), wouldn't you feel
> more
>  at ease if Sitler was in the company of an adult responsible for Sitler?"
>
>  That would be a violation of his probation, Tom. If he did that, he would
> get caught, no doubt, and go to jail for the rest of his life.

Note, Donovan, that a "suspended life sentence" does not mean that the
sentence must be executed all at once. When someone receives a
suspended sentence, any amount of time remaining on that sentence (in
the case of a life sentence, infinite time) can be requested by the
probation officer and approved by the judge.

For talking to a grade school kid alone, I seriously doubt he'd
receive an entire life sentence, or -- really -- any time whatsoever.
There's a whole range of punishments that can be used against people
on probation.

-- ACS

>  Regards,
>
>  _DJA
>
>
>
> Tom Hansen  wrote:
>
>  Sunil -
>
> I agree that "probation for life" is a harsh (and, in this case, well
> deserved) sentence. Anything beyond a traffic infraction could result in
> Steven Sitler sharing an 8-by-10 with his new found love interest, Bubba.
>
> I also agree that Steven Sitler should start his treatment immediately, as
> opposed to later.
>
> However, and I believe alot of people on V2020 will agree with me, why
> should Steven Sitler be permitted to attend his treatment sessions
> absolutely UNSUPERVISED.
>
> Sitler is not in jail on a marijuana conviction. He is there for conviction
> of pedophilia.
>
> If, on some Friday afternoon while at the Palouse Mall, you should see
> Sitler in the parking lot talking with a grade school girl (perhaps that
> girl is a relative [no need for alarm], perhaps not), wouldn't you feel more
> at ease if Sitler was in the company of an adult responsible for Sitler?
>
> I realize that neither the city of Moscow nor Latah County have the funds to
> ensure such supervision. But think about it next time you take your
> daughter to the mall.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown-----Original Message-----
>
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Sunil Ramalingam
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:50 AM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] AGAIN! The punishment does not fit the crime
>
> Perhaps someone else has pointed this out by now. If not, I will make these
>
> points, in order to make the voices in my head stop screaming every time I
> read one of these posts:
>
> 1. He had a life sentence suspended. He is on probation for life. If he
> violates his probation, he could go away to prison for LIFE. This is NOT a
> one-year jail sentence. And J Ford, he has ALREADY gone to Cottonwood.
>
> 2. If he screws around when he is supposed to be going to treatment,
> perhaps between his treatment provider and the jail personnel, someone will
> know how to use a PHONE and figure out he isn't where he's supposed to be.
> And if this is a violation of his probation, please see No. 1 above.
>
> 3. He may be released on probation, and will most likely continue with his
> treatment. How many of you would prefer that he start with treatment now,
> instead of waiting? I would. He likely got started on treatment in
> Cottonwood. Would you prefer that he lose the benefit of whatever he
> learned by sitting in jail and staring at the walls instead of continuing
> treatment? I would not.
>
> 4. There is nothing unusual about a person being released on bail or his
> own recognizance while their cases are pending. Before that decision is
> made, prosecutors and judges consider whether there is continuing access to
> the victims; if there is, defendants will likely have high bails or no bail.
>
> The people making the decisions do not get weepy-eyed in the process of
> making these decisions. They are not on the verge of getting away with
> something if not for you meddling kids.
>
> Sunil
>
>
> >From: "Shelly"
> >To:
>
> >Subject: [Vision2020] AGAIN! The punishment does not fit the crime
> >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 18:29:31 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
> >
> >
> >Re: Sitler
> >Why didn't the judge see fit to make the punishment fit the crime?
> >
> >Phil Roderick
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