[Vision2020] Literacy and Math
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 8 12:40:53 PDT 2006
Problem is, he is NOT always in jail...he is allowed to provide his own
transportation and go to not one, but two locals for "counseling"...well,
perhaps three if we count the "counseling" you are giving him. Does he go
to your office, Dougie or do you humble yourself to go to the jail and
"counsel" him?
Point is - HE IS OUT OF JAIL for several hours each week - UNSUPERVISED and
withOUT even an ankle device (it isn't ordered in the court papers.)
As usual, you are frothing at the mouth only half-truths or no-truths.
J :]
>From: Douglas <dougwils at christkirk.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Literacy and Math
>Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:40:57 -0700
>
>Visionaries,
>
>Wayne Fox and I differ on many substantive things, as the whole world
>knows. But the issues regarding his post below are not in that category,
>having more to do with basic literacy and basic math.
>
>1. At the very beginning of the directory that Wayne Fox cites, the
>following statement appears. "This directory includes members from both
>churches and those who attend on a regular basis, /but are not yet members/
>. . ." (emphasis added). NSA students regularly retain their membership in
>their home churches, as was the case with Steven Sitler. His name was in
>the directory because it is an address and phone directory, not a
>membership list. Thus, my statement.
>
>2. In the math category, I have no idea where Wayne could possibly have
>gotten the figure of 120 victims. This is not said as a defense of Steven's
>activity -- if there had been only one victim, he should be right where he
>is today, which is in jail. But Wayne still needs to reel it in.
>
>Douglas Wilson
>
>
>Art Deco wrote:
>>*HTML is necessary to view the graphics in this post.*
>> Bill,
>> Thank you for posting this story. There are a number of comments that
>>it invites. I will limit myself to two.
>> *1.* Cultmaster Wilson says: "Sitler was not a member of Christ
>>Church."
>> Two graphics follow: The first is the heading of the document from
>>whence the second comes. The document is a now dated Christ Church
>>Membership Directory. The second graphic shows the part of the page where
>>*Steven Sitler's membership* is shown.
>>_________
>> _________
>> _________________
>> Of course, those of us familiar with Cultmaster Wilson of the Wilson &
>>Family's Cult & *Cash Machine* know that he is a pusillanimous, but not
>>always careful liar. I suggest that readers *ascribe to his public
>>comments* on this and the Jamin Wight case (including those he has so
>>graciously deigned to rejoin V 2020 to make) *the same degree of
>>truthfulness and ingenuity* as his above comment about Sitler's membership
>>in his cult.
>> *2.* What's is far more egregious for the community than Wilson's
>>to-be-expected lies is the sloppy journalism, editorial placement, and
>>story captioning practiced by the /Lewiston Mourning Tribune/.
>> Was it too much to ask of reporter David Johnson to check the accuracy
>>of the statements of Wilson, a big-time known liar, especially statements
>>about Sitler's cult membership? Apparently, it was. Accuracy by the
>>/Tribune/ with respect to reporting on the cult's activities and
>>pronouncements have never been much of a priority when it comes to
>>Wilson's machinations. I guess that accurate, unbiased reporting is too
>>much to ask of Johnson when it comes to the Cultmaster. I hope that there
>>nothing more than cupidity at work here.
>> Although Johnson's report notes in passing that:
>> "According to court records, Sitler told authorities of numerous other
>>sexual assaults he committed with children here and in Stevens
>>County,...",
>> the caption on the story is "*Church officials say rumors about sex
>>offender are 'ludicrous'*". The story it self is placed on page 4 of the
>>Northwest section.
>> Let's put this in perspective:
>> A pedophile is reported by on Johnson to have "told authorities of
>>numerous other sexual assaults he committed with children here and in
>>Stevens County,...". This child molester has allegedly confessed to
>>sexually abusing about *120 children*, including *several* in the cult
>>family he boarded with while attending New Saint Andrews. This is not a
>>front page story? Are not *the children helplessly debauched* and their
>>families *the real victims*, not Whinny Wilson and Atwood whose
>>"sufferings" are the focus of the news story?
>> What a fucking wonderful community-minded newspaper! Perhaps it is not
>>important to them to publicize this matter so as to alert the community of
>>possible past and future perils, not important to try to find out how this
>>rampage of debauchery resulting in insidious harm to children could have
>>continued so long undetected by authorities. Perhaps it is not important
>>to them to try to at least get a hint about the possibility of other
>>similar crimes incubating, hatched, and/or thriving in the same cult
>>environment. Do they think those in the local criminal justice system
>>have acted properly in this case?
>> And what about the cult's prime Grimfriar ministerial student Jamin
>>Wight, who was recently convicted of having sex with a 14 year girl (10
>>years his junior) also in a cult home where he was boarding during his
>>Grimfriar ministerial training in the Wilson & Family's Cult & *Cash
>>Machine*? I guess that's not news either.
>> Doesn't this splendid newspaper make you want to..., well never mind.
>>
>>
>>Wayne A. Fox
>>1009 Karen Lane
>>PO Box 9421
>>Moscow, ID 83843
>> (208) 882-7975
>>waf at moscow.com <mailto:waf at moscow.com>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>*From:* Bill London <mailto:london at moscow.com>
>>*To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>*Sent:* Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:37 PM
>>*Subject:* [Vision2020] Sitler case
>>
>>
>> In my recent post about the Sitler case, I incorrectly implied that
>> no local media had opened this story.
>>
>> In fact David Johnson of the Lewiston Tribune wrote a piece
>> (reprinted below) that appeared today.
>>
>> I urge anyone who has more information about this case (information
>> that will help resolve these issues of Doug Wilson's reputation and
>> decisions) to contact Johnson at deveryone at potlatch.com or at (208)
>> 883-0564.
>>
>> BL
>>
>>
>> ------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Lewiston Tribune June 7, 2006
>>
>> By DAVID JOHNSON
>>of the Tribune
>>
>>MOSCOW -- Christ Church Pastor Douglas Wilson and Roy Atwood, president of
>>New Saint Andrews College, Tuesday denied rumors a sex offender was
>>harbored by the church and his crimes hushed up.
>>
>>"Ludicrous," Wilson said of the allegations that were being spread on the
>>Internet.
>>
>>"He was a student," Atwood said of the convicted child molester, "and the
>>instant the case came up he admitted to it and he was expelled
>>immediately."
>>
>>Steven J. Sitler, 21, is serving one year in the Latah County Jail and
>>will be on probation for life after confessing last year to one felony
>>count of lewd and lascivious conduct with a child under the age of 16,
>>according to court records.
>>
>>Sentencing Judge John Stegner of Moscow said Sitler could face life in
>>prison if he violates any of the many probation conditions placed on him.
>>
>>According to court records, Sitler told authorities of numerous other
>>sexual assaults he committed with children here and in Stevens County,
>>Washington. Stegner said Sitler's confessions are unusual among sex
>>offenders and figured in the probation sentence.
>>
>>And contrary to rumors, Wilson said, rather than try to protect Sitler, he
>>convinced him he needed to tell the truth about, not just his sins, but
>>the crimes he committed. Wilson said he is aware of numerous other
>>potential victims, all children and some of them part of the Christ Church
>>community.
>>
>>"As long as justice was being done, we didn't want the victims, who were
>>children, to suffer," Wilson said of his and Atwood's decision to not go
>>public with the situation. He said the case is a matter of public record
>>and anyone could look at the file. Many of the details, however, have been
>>ordered sealed by Stegner.
>>
>>Sitler was not a member of Christ Church. But the congregation, Wilson
>>said, was made aware of the situation. Likewise, Atwood said, he
>>immediately told NSA students that Sitler had been expelled for serious
>>violations of the law.
>>
>>Sitler's attorney, Dean Wullenwaber of Lewiston, declined comment about
>>the situation. According to court records, he and Latah County Prosecutor
>>William Thompson Jr. reached a plea agreement based, in part, on Sitler's
>>willingness to tell authorities of other crimes he committed. Thompson
>>could not be reached for comment.
>>
>>Authorities in Stevens County, according to records, agreed to not pursue
>>prosecution as long as Sitler continues to meet his probation requirements
>>in Idaho.
>>
>>In addition to being registered as a sex offender, Sitler must undergo
>>treatment and be closely monitored by probation officers for the rest of
>>his life, according to court records.
>>
>>Wilson and Atwood said the Internet entries that began appearing Tuesday
>>on blogs and the local Vision 2020 community bulletin board here are most
>>likely from people who continue to attack the church and college on a
>>number of political fronts.
>>
>>"These people are taking a tragedy and using it to advance a petty
>>political agenda," Wilson said.
>>
>>"This is the kind of thing that they try to make political mileage out of
>>and that is almost as reprehensible as the act," Atwood said.
>>
>>------
>>
>>Johnson may be contacted at deveryone at potlatch.com or at (208) 883-0564.
>>
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