[Vision2020] shamelessness

[Joe Campbell]

Donovan,

You seem convinced that Michael's posts are part of some "political agenda" but I see them otherwise. He has nothing to gain, polically speaking, and has already lost quite a lot in speaking out as he does. You should meet with him and talk with him in person and you might change your mind about his motivations and character.

Michael and I share similar concerns about our community and even hold some religious and philosophical views in common. But generally our religious, philosophical, and political veiws are quite different. It makes it difficult to suggest that there is a "hidden agenda" here. 

I have genuine, substantive concerns about my family and my community, concerns that motivate my actions. I think Michael's actions should be understood in the same way.

It is fine to ignore what Michael says, or to disagree with points that he makes. But let's not dismiss his words under the banner of "political agenda." A similar attack is open to each of us.

--
Joe Campbell

---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote: 

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Joe,
  
 I think someone using the tragic event of a child being  molested as an excuse to further an unrelated political agenda could be  seen as unethical and further abuse of that child and their family,  particularly if they opposed that political agenda, don't you agree,  Joe?
  
  Best Regards,
  
  _DJA

Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:  Some of us like Michael's posts. I encourage him to continue.
--
Joe Campbell

---- "g. crabtree"  wrote: 

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Mr.  Metzler, please give it a rest. A sorrowful event has occurred and you  are defiantly not making it any better. The only people who are hanging  on your every word are already members of your club. I am afraid that  all the finger pointing that you have been doing of late is only  serving to make you appear obsessed and deranged. Why don't you take a  month or two off and see if you can get over what ever slight, real or  imagined, that you think you have received from your former pastor.  Perhaps during that time you will find a more productive way to utilize  your time. Breathe in, hold it, release slowly, repeat. 

G. Crabtree
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:18 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] shamelessness


  Wilson Writes: "Michael, you are the emotional equivalent of a sucking chest wound"

   

  Thank you very much for your very helpful comments here Mr. Wilson.  Instead of confessing that your entire point about the "victims" was  refuted by my response, you just change the subject to "posting private  emails." That's an old issue, and not one nearly so interesting as your  current public slander against me and the person who wrote the  announcement. So perhaps we should stick on target; after all, your  emails were confrontational, and you certainly knew I would be posting  them. They were also crucial to show that I was willing and eager to  make any correction to the post before it gained a large readership;  you arrogantly declined to help me do this, more concerned about  hurting me than protecting anyone. I'm getting dizzy Mr. Wilson. Just  what is your accusation against me? Your bringing the victims into this  just in your public Vision 2020 posts (unnecessarily) is despicable,  and I would have never dreamed of doing such a hurtful thing. You 
 originally claime!
 d that my behavior was horrible and immoral  because I dare post an announcement like I did at all; you supposedly  knew this because the victims asked me to pull everything off my web  site. But this only revealed your ignorance of the nature of the  victim's concerns and their request (or else just further deceit); this  also demonstrated that your attack on me for merely posting the  announcement is ridiculous. You are making a fool of your self Mr.  Wilson, and although I would like you to show the world what kind of  man you really are, I am still committed to getting the "victims" off  the public square. So please stop now.

   

 We are in the  process of gathering our stuff and kids to go to my brother in law's  wedding in Colorado. I haven't even finished reading your last post  about me yet. I will be responding further as I am able. I wish I was  able to respond far more than I already have.

   

  Thank you

  Michael Metzler



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