[Vision2020] shamelessness

[Bill London]

Doug Wilson, in his post to V2020 reprinted below, suggests that I as
"quasi-moderator" stop this dialog on Sitler's activities.

Sorry, I can't and won't.  This is a non-moderated list.  Period.  Besides,
I do believe in free speech.

Doug continues that his concern is for the publishing of the victims' names.
That has not occured and I do not believe that anyone on this list would do
anything so reprehensible.

What this whole situation needs is a lot more open information and less
concealment.  There is no need to discuss individual victims.  The issues
involve the activities of the adults involved: Sitler, Wilson and the police
and courts.  That information needs to be openly discussed.  Until now, the
entire case has been shrouded in secrecy.

Wilson is a public figure.  His role is crucial.  He was willing to reach
out and post on V2020 after promising never to return -- and that indicates
he understands the significance of this situation.

The Sitler case is news now.  I think it is time that our local media
started opening the case to public scrutiny. BL








----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Wilson" <dougwils at christkirk.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] shamelessness


> Visionaries,
>
> Let's take just one thing at a time. J. Ford claims that I knew about
> Steven Sitler's activities for two years without doing anything about
> it. In the real world, where all this actually happened, the civil
> authorities were contacted immediately, and no children were endangered
> by him from that moment to this. Steven left Moscow immediately, and was
> allowed by the civil authorities to wait for his trial in his home town,
> which is why the people there were informed right away. When people here
> needed to be informed, they were -- by responsible people who put the
> interests of the victims and their families first, unlike Ford, Metzler,
> and the cohort of anonymous cowards who post to Metzler's blog.
>
> So I want to put this question to Moscow's progressives and liberals who
> have watched a mania about me on the part of some become an unhealthy
> public obsession. This mania is about to chew up some innocent people.
> Do you approve of this behavior? What is your mechanism for dealing with
> this kind of manufactured libel, all wool and a yard wide? Bill London,
> you are the quasi-moderator here. Does your commitment to free speech on
> this forum have any way of protecting the victims in this tragedy? What
> are you going to do to keep one of the crazies here from posting their
> names, all for the sake of making some obscure and telling point against
> me? What responsibility does FirstStep have to protect the victims'
> names? What responsibility does this forum have when one member of it
> accuses someone of complicity in perverse and criminal activity for two
> years, when what was actually done was to involve the police
> immediately? Does J. Ford's libelous post get to just remain there? Is
> anybody going to do anything about this? Are you people totally without
> shame?
>
> To all those who have been discussing this enthusiastically, with about
> a third of the facts, and /those /creatively arranged, I would make this
> request. Michael Metzler, J. Ford, all you visionaries, this is a
> request I am making on behalf of the victims' families. Please stop this
> discussion right now. Drop it. All you are doing is gearing up for the
> second round of abuse. Sitler provided the first round, and godless
> chatter here and elsewhere is providing the second. When I talked to the
> victims' parents about what Michael Metzler had done on his blog, and
> what was being done here, do you think the response from them was more
> like, "Oh, good," or "Oh, no"? Which response do you think it was?
> Honestly, which? If you guessed the latter, you would be right, and that
> should dictate what those with any sense of decency remaining will not
> write about from here on out. Once again, the victims families feel
> quite helpless, and Metzler's blog and this forum are the reason for it.
> Do the right thing.
>
> Douglas Wilson
>
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