[Vision2020] NSA CUP appeal hearing/Kimmel/Ament/Pall

[J Ford]

Presuming you believe in the theory of "let the main show his mettle afore 
ye hang 'im" why not give Mr. Ament and all the rest of the Council people a 
chance?  It is my feeling that Mr. Ament will listen and weigh the 
"evidence" as fairly as he is want to do and will vote in accordance.  There 
is NO proof that he is deceptive or corrupt in his ability to his job.  
After all, it is not he who is lieng/stretching the truth/trying to pull the 
wool over people's eyes/committing illegal acts.

And Mr. Ament, after all, is only ONE vote - what you so afeared of mr 
dickison - that his is gonna to be the "swing vote" that puts NSA out of 
business?  If that were true, that would mean there are others on the 
Council that do not agree with NSA/CC/Dougie/dickison that NSA is in the 
right place.  You gonna get them ALL recused?

Giving in to the bullying tactics of CC/Dougie/dickison would only send the 
message "we don't like you and will make sure you don't get to do your job - 
no matter what it takes".  Seems to me we have seen enough of this group's 
pushing around our City officials - the time to stop this is now.

Isanae it interesting to see mr dickison's different tactics within the same 
letter - "don't like the appellants so let's get them thrown out; don't like 
the people on the City Council so let's get them thrown off the vote.  Heck, 
let's just get them barred from ever testifying against us and stop this 
whole "religious persecution" thing now."

Problem with that is that it opens the City's doors to any jack-n-rabbit 
that wants to take over this town without question.  Hardly fair to those of 
us who pay our taxes and vote.

J  :]




>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NSA CUP appeal hearing/Kimmel/Ament/Pall
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 07:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I agree with Jim insofar as that a person should not recuse themselves  
>simply because they have an opinion. However, I do think that someone  that 
>is suppose to be making a judgment that impacts many people  monetarily 
>should be open minded about the issue. If someone feels that  they dislike 
>a group or organization so intently, I think the  responsible thing to do 
>is recuse yourself. If you hate or love your  neighbor, and you are called 
>to jury duty to hear a case against them,  do you think you could openly 
>listen to all the facts and make a fair  unbiased decision? If so, you are 
>fine, if you could never vote not  guilty, or guilty if you love your 
>neighbor, regardless of the facts  presented, you need to step aside.
>
>   Take Care,
>
>   _DJA
>
>
>
>Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com> wrote:  All,
>What short memory some of us have...Remember Paul Kimmel and his alleged
>conflicts of interest having to do with Christ Church?
>
>The legal definition of conflict of interest means FINANCIAL conflict of
>interest, not conflict of opinions. I would be very, very disappointed
>to see Aaron Ament recuse himself (as I was with Linda Pall when she
>recused herself concerning Wal-Mart (1).
>
>I say to both Aaron and Linda, be leaders, don't be wimps. I didn't vote
>for a wimp. I didn't vote for someone who doesn't have the courage of
>his or her belief. The kind of person I voted for would stand up against
>those who would take advantage of the community for selfish gain. The
>kind of person I voted for wouldn't back down in the face practiced
>lying and subtle manipulation. Like a good parent, the person I voted
>for would call out a lie and cause discomfort rather than be party to
>the lie and thus encouraging more lies. I urge you both to continue to
>fight for what you believe is right for the community. Keep up the good
>work both of you.
>
>I'll end by saying that it is personal belief of mine that to be
>unnecessarily antagonistic is to be polarizing without being productive.
>Lack of tact is not, however, a problem solved by recusal. I am sure
>tact is gained through experience; that is the solution. Let us put
>experience to work and recusal to rest unless, of course, you want to
>revisit Paul Kimmel's past alleged conflicts of interest.
>
>Jim Meyer
>
>(1) / Daily News By Ryan Bentley, Daily News staff writer
>Published: 05-27-2006/ "Councilwoman Linda Pall recused herself due to a
>previous comment she had made while discussing Wal-Mart with a member of
>the Gene Thompson family.“I said, ‘Boy, I sure hope you’re not planning
>a Wal-Mart out there’ Š and in no uncertain terms I said it was a
>terrible idea,” Pall said."
>
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