[Vision2020] Echoes From the Whinery

Fri Jul 28 09:45:50 PDT 2006

A.  Donovan is making statements of fact as if he knew things - which he 
does not.
B.  I did not threaten him, I STRONGLY advised him to shut up.
C.  Donovan never makes "suggestions" - he SAYS things as if he is an 
authority.  I am reminding him that he is not, ESPECIALLY in this case.  He 
does not live near Dougie, he is not a part of the kirkerhood, he is not 
even friends with any of them.  Why he chooses to constantly stand up for 
them and make irresponsible statements is irritating and, to a degree, 
interfering.  IF someone took his statements and accusations to heart, all 
that does is throw a monkey wrench in the middle of an already bogus 
grinding machine that is hurting other people.
D.  I don't HATE anyone...it takes a heck of a lot for me to say "I hate 
this person or that one" and I have only done so three times in my life.  I 
have not said that towards Dougie nor will I unless he does something truly 
despicable.  I do not LIKE him, but I certainly do not hate him.
E.  My life makes perfect sense, thank you very much.  Its other people's 
part in it that sometimes gets me perplexed.
F.  Why are you getting so upset about my challenging this guy to put up or 
shut up?  IF he has proof of anything that he is saying it would be a 
different story.  But to accuse people he does not know of things that he 
knows nothing about is juvenile and borders on liable, IMHO.  And funny how 
he has picked the "gal" and her shoulders to put this incident on.  Dougie 
named five people and yet Donovan seems to think this "gal" is the main 
blame.  For someone not in the church - how kirker of him!

J  :]

>From: "rvrcowboy" <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net>
>To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "J Ford" 
><privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Echoes From the Whinery
>Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:47:39 -0700
>
>Mr. Ford,
>
>I do not understand your vile attitude, not only toward Doug Wilson, but
>also toward anyone who advocates that he be afforded the same rights and
>privileges as anyone else.  Donovan only suggested that Mr. Wilson be
>afforded the same rights as any other citizen and be allowed to pursue the
>protection of his own property through the legal system.  If he is pressing
>charges against others frivolusly that should become apparent in the follow
>up to the charges.
>
>Perhaps your own life would be more serene if you let the law handle Mr.
>Wilson's case and devoted your time to something more productive.  Your
>complete hatred toward Wilson has become obvious to all and now you are
>letting it spill over onto others who only differ in opinion from you about
>anything concerning Doug Wilson.
>
>Your reply to Mr. Arnold, for example, hints of a threat, actual or not.  
>It
>reminds me of when my daughter was very young and rejected some of her
>friends to please others who did not like them.  It was childish of her 
>then
>and it is childish of you now.
>
>I am sure you can come back with some nasty remarks for me but please
>believe me, I am not trying to condem you, only to point out to you how
>silly, childish and full of venom you often sound.
>
>Dick S.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Echoes From the Whinery
>
>
> > You made statements the other day that Wilson had these incidents video
> > taped...I asked you THEN to prove what you are saying and you have not.
>Now
> > this.  IF you know something that these four named do not know or that
>even
> > the POLICE do not know - prove it.  Otherwise, I STRONGLY suggest you 
>shut
> > your trap.
> >
> > I realize you are very tempted to step into things that you have no
> > knowledge of or part in because it fits some need in you to do so.  But 
>I
> > believe this is one (of many) fights you need to stay out of.  
>Dougie-boy
> > does not need your help in his whining nor in the singing of his
> > "Oh-my-gosh-I-am-so-persecuted" theme song.
> >
> >
> > J  :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > >To: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>, Joan Opyr <joanopyr at moscow.com>,
> > >  "'Moscow Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Echoes From the Whinery
> > >Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >"Although Doug Wilson's statement can be easily reduced to one word
> > >(WAAAH!), a friend of mine described it more appropriately when 
>comparing
> > >it to
> > >little Johnny at Rosauers tugging on his mommy's dress complaining that
> > >somebody made a face at him."--Tom Hansen
> > >
> > >Tom,
> > >
> > >Are you suggesting that if someone complains about 4 of their tires 
>being
> > >slashed,
> > >that they are just a whiny baby?
> > >
> > >You must be twice the man as most people, because most people would
>report
> > >that
> > >incident to the police. They wouldn't just shrug their shoulders and
>laugh
> > >at the "teenage prank".
> > >I would be making as much noise as I could, otherwise it would keep
> > >happening.
> > >
> > >For some that seems so CONCERNED about the LAW, I would think you would
> > >support the reporting, pursuit
> > >and arrest, and forced repayment from the individual(s) responsible.
> > >
> > >To be honest, I think you and the gal that did this are the only ones 
>on
> > >this list that think reporting four slashed tires
> > >to the police is a bad idea and just whining.
> > >
> > >I think you are letting Vandal Spirit spread to far outside the ball
>court.
> > >
> > >Best,
> > >
> > >   _DJA
> > >
> > >
> > >Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:  Greetings Visionaires -
> > >
> > >The website concerning the police report filed by Doug Wilson on July 
>18,
> > >2006 has been updated to include the handwritten statement signed by 
>Doug
> > >Wilson.
> > >
> > >Although Doug Wilson's statement can be easily reduced to one word
> > >(WAAAH!),
> > >a friend of mine described it more appropriately when comparing it to
> > >little
> > >Johnny at Rosauers tugging on his mommy's dress complaining that 
>somebody
> > >made a face at him.
> > >
> > >But then, why not let you fine people reach your own conclusions:
> > >
> > >http://www.tomandrodna.com/Wilsonistas/Police_Report_071805.htm
> > >
> > >There are 20,000 stories in the naked city.  This isn't any of them.
> > >
> > >Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > >
> > >Tom Hansen
> > >Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > >*******************************************************
> > >
> > >"If the law is to be respected it must first be respectable.  There 
>will
> > >never be respect for our laws without enforcement, equal enforcement."
> > >
> > >- dick Sherwin (May 3, 2006)
> > >
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