[Vision2020] Democrats new property tax plan: $104 million cut for homeowners

Tom Ivie the_ivies3 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 13 15:00:57 PDT 2006


But I don't see "poor" people buying the higher ticket items.  Wouldn't that be progressive to some extent?  I am not arguing that this is the best way to go, I just think it is more complicated than just saying the poor carry all the burden when the sales tax is increased.  I don't think that reducing the "homeowner's" exemption also reduces commercial property tax, but maybe a legislator or prospective legislator could chime in and explain.  
   
  Here's my skeptical view of the situation.  The powers that be will lower the homeowner's exemption.  There will be a false sense of security and homeowners will pass all kinds of bonds because they feel they can afford it.  Then property values and assessed values rise.  What stops the property tax from being raised in the future?  It still can be done, leaving us with a worse tax scenario (from the individual standpoint) than before the exemption.  It is just a cat and mouse game.  Either way, the citizens pay for the services.  Either way, the poor get screwed.  Either they pay more for services and goods or they go even longer without being able to afford to buy a house.    

Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  "The latest plan coming from Gov. Jim Risch's camp would eliminate the school tax for everyone, saving $250 million in property taxes. But to cover the cost, he would raise the sales tax by a penny, raising about $210 million, and then take the $40 million left from the surplus."

Both the Democrats and Republicans have unfair plans. Risch's plan is even more reckless. He wants to shift the burden of taxes from property owners and place it on the back of the poor by increasing sales tax on daily needed items by 20%.

Democrats want to cut property tax by $104 million then raise the sales tax to generate more money for education.


This is just two groups of people arguing whether to call the zebra black with white strips or white with black strips. They are both planning to shift the tax burden from the wealthy and middle class to the poor and middle class by implementing a progressive sales tax. 

This is typical politicians thinking: cut taxes just before the election by placing the tax burden on the shoulders of those who can least afford it.

They ought to place a handwashing station at each polling district because the voting booths are the most unsanitary places of all.

Best,

_DJA



TIM RIGSBY <tim.rigsby at hotmail.com> wrote:  Thanks for the thought and input. Maybe I should have called out the 
Republicants as opposed to the Republicans. I agree, Schroeder and Trail 
have a very wonderful track record of supporting public education. One of 
the reasons they probably support public monies going to public education is 
because they represent the University of Idaho. A majority of their 
constituents either work for, are supported by, or are related to somehow 
with the UI.

Then again, Schroeder and Trail have been called RINOs on more than one 
occasion. Thanks Tim for pointing out my broad stroke.

Tim



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>From: Tim Lohrmann 
>To: tim.rigsby at hotmail.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Democrats new property tax plan: $104 million cut for homeowners
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hey Visionistics,
> He may have a cool first name, but I've still got to call Tim 
>Rigsby on a little something here.
> Tim writes--"Republicans never have supported public education and 
>I am sure they were pissed when the IEA collected enough signatures to get 
>the 1% initiative on the November ballot. Thoughts?"
> Yeah, I actually managed one of those thought thingys on this one, 
>Tim.
> Watch those broad, sweeping statements---because you're just plain 
>wrong here.
> Wrong how?
> Two words---Schroeder & Trail.
> It would be tough to find a State Rep. or a State Senator of 
>either party who have supported public education more consistently than 
>either Tom Trail or Gary Schroeder.
> The IEA agrees by routinely endorsing them for re-election.
> Anyway, thanks for the interesting article forward...just thought 
>you might wanna do a little closer fact check on your "short message" 
>section next time.
> TL
>
>
>
>
> "Those 'technicalities have a name, Bobby. They're called the 
>Bill of Rights."
> 
> ---Hank Hill
>
>
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>
>
>The Idaho Statesman wrote:
> You have been sent the following article from Tim Rigsby as a courtesy 
>of The Idaho Statesman.
>
>"Local News - 10:56 a.m. Democrats offer new property tax plan: $104 
>million cut for homeowners"
>
>To view this article on The Idaho Statesman website, go to:
>http://www.idahostatesman.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200660711006
>
>The following is a short message from Tim Rigsby:
>Could be good, who knows for sure though. I am guessing that the 
>Rebublicans want to raise the sales tax to prevent the IEA proposed sales 
>tax increase from passing in November. Republicans never have supported 
>public education and I am sure they were pissed when the IEA collected 
>enough signatures to get the 1% initiative on the November ballot. 
>Thoughts?
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