[Vision2020] My Pictures

Sat Jul 1 12:36:19 PDT 2006

Michael & Daniel, Imagine my surprise at being newly elevated to the lofty level of "friend" after some of our previous exchanges. I really don't know what to attribute the honor to other then, perhaps, the much decried serrated sarcasm. I had not intended to post on this subject but, since I have been conjured via the use of my name, please allow me  to "hyperventilate unreasonably." 

The solution seems clear. Daniel, you must take one for the team. Since hansen does not seem to be able to differentiate between one Kirk member and the next, (this being explained as a variation on the all cats are black in the dark theorem) allow him unrestricted use of the material he has already misappropriated in exchange for the material Dale has been utilizing on his site. This should make all parties exquisitely happy and take away any possible avenue for complaint for any and all involved parties. I know it will be painful to see your fine work pitifully bastardized in the amateurish manner that it has been over at 'not on the palouse not never' but at least this matter can be laid to rest and an agreement can be reached to respect copyright notices from this point forward. (pant, pant. I find myself breathless and can determine no logical reason. Curious.) Michael, feel free to utilize my lack of reason any old time. Its what friends are for. Daniel, it's a pleasure to have made your recent acquaintance and I hope future conversation does not take place in such an awkward format or under the limitation of V2020 silliness and rancor.

G. Crabtree
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:31 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] My Pictures

  Daniel,

  I feel like breaking the posting law today; so here's one more:  I think that if you didn't want to create a discussion about this on Vision2020 the best thing to have done would have been to email Tom Hansen privately - I don't think anyone has started to hyperventilate unreasonably about this yet (anticipating what my friend Gary Crabtree might still like to say to all this).  Given the similar use of pictures by Dale, and the significant story that Mrs. Husky has given about some of these uses, I would think that Dale's Blog is relevant to your concern here; after all, you did justify your request by publicly stating that Tom Hansen's web site is slanderous.  I don't think it unreasonable to want you to offer a coherent moral view of the local web site with similar subject matter.  If you did not base your request on the claim that Tom's site is slanderous and if you went to Tom privately, all of the above would be irrelevant.  In any case, I do hope you will be willing to hang around for further discussion about web sites, slander, pictures, copy-right law, and the existence of God.

  Michael

  Mrs. Husky, 

  I asked Mr. Hanson to remove my pictures on his website. If Dale Courtney used pictures on his blog that I didn't want him to use, I would ask him to remove them, and I know he would. This is concerning my pictures on Hanson's site.  I don't know where Dale Courtney gets every one of his images; I simply know where he got mine. It is irrelevant to this discussion whether Dale Courtney is using someone else's pictures.  If I were someone else, I could easily not even know him. Please contact him if you have an issue with a photo he has posted.

  I don't want to get in some big debate over all in the in's an out's of picture rights. Mr. Hanson put a picture on his site that belongs to me, and I have asked him to remove it. It's as simply as that. Though I am not a proffesional photographer, I do take pay jobs for my work from time to time. It would be absurd to think that he has some kind of right to this photo. 

  I am asking him to do what I would do in the same situation. Even for the pictures I have taken myself, (which I have full rights to post, even if people don't like it) I have a complaint form (since I post lots of pics) that people can fill out if they don't like a pic I took of them. http://www.foucachon.com/complaint_form.html 

  But this is an even different situation. He has used one of mine. Dale Courtney has told me that he has always had a copyright notice on his site. But even if he didn't, Mr. Hansen should still remove it, because the owner has just asked him too. 

  This is not some big deal, and not even worth all this discussion. Mr. Hansen keeping that picture and video up won't keep me from sleaping :)

  Have a nice day, and feel free to see my photo blog (I really should update it..some broken links..) http://www.huguenotheritage.com/photos/ 

  -Daniel

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