[Vision2020] the pledge

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 29 19:51:11 PST 2006


  
"The arguements given below are pretty weak.  
Sorry, but "Someone wants to walk or ride a 
bike to WalMart"?  What does THAT have to do with 
ANYthing?"--Jackie Woolf

And what does anything that the Anti-Wal-Mart forces presented
have anything to do with anything?

If I want a Wal-Mart because it is blue, that should be
reason enough. It is my choice as a consumer to shop at
only Blue stores when Elizabeth is the Queen of England.

Is it rational, is it connected to reality, is it arguable?
No, it isn't, but either is the misinformation being
presented by the anti-Wal-Mart forces. Everyone of their
claims from Low Wages(40% over minimum), no health insurance
($11 a month after full-time status for 6 months like any 
other company), they buy stuff from China(everyone does,
including the Co-Op), and force people onto disability benefits,
have all be discredited.

Your only legitimate argument is that the building is ugly
and blocking the view of dead people. And as someone whose
plot is going to be blocked, I can honestly say I am not going
to care and nobody else has said a thing. 

  "The reasons that people object to WalMart, KMart, Target, Costco, etc. has 
NOTHING to do with limiting shoppers choices and certainly has NOTHING to do 
with limiting the poor (personally, that argument is so lame, its hardly 
worth much more notice than that) and it has nothing to do with dictating 
what a landowner can/cannot do with their land"

But that is what you are doing regardless of if that is
your intention or not. 

_DJA



 



  

J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:  The reasons that people object to WalMart, KMart, Target, Costco, etc. has 
NOTHING to do with limiting shoppers choices and certainly has NOTHING to do 
with limiting the poor (personally, that argument is so lame, its hardly 
worth much more notice than that) and it has nothing to do with dictating 
what a landowner can/cannot do with their land (BTW, that is done daily - 
can't build a fence on your property higher than 4ft., can't build just any 
kind of building anywhere you want in town/county, etc.)

What it has to do with is the fear (or better yet, concern) for the economy 
and the autonomy of the town.  As well, it has to do with what people see 
corporations do to their workers (or not do to the them; i.e., provide 
proper level of health insurance, decent pay, etc.)

If those arguing on an emotional level could just rise out of that and look 
into the facts and present logical, non-emotional arguments, it might help 
move things along.

The arguements given below are pretty weak.  Sorry, but "Someone wants to 
walk or ride a bike to WalMart"?  What does THAT have to do with ANYthing?

And please, for once keep the response on a non-nasty level - just write 
about the facts or arguments as you see them; don't attack the person 
writing about this, ok?  (Please re-read my statement in para 3 - the 
ARGUMENT is weak, not the person making it.)

J  :]





>   If  you want reason of why it limits choice I will give you several of 
>them;
>
>   Someone does not have a car to drive to Pullman
>
>   Someone does not want to burn the gas to drive to Pullman
>
>   Someone does not WANT to drive to Pullman
>
>   Someone does not have the TIME to drive to Pullman
>
>   Someone is not allowed to go to Pullman or cross state lines
>
>   Someone wants to work at a Super Wal-Mart in Idaho
>
>   Some one does not want to pay 5% tax on groceries
>
>   Someone wants to keep tax dollars in Idaho
>
>   Someone wants to do one stop shopping in Idaho
>
>   Someone wants to go for long walks indoors in the winter or rain
>
>   Someone wants to do donuts in their big parking lot a 12PM
>
>   Someone wants to walk or ride a bike to Wal-mart
>
>   There is giant snow storm a Pullman is too far
>
>   There ice cream might melt
>
>   There trunk does not close and want to avoid the highway
>
>   They get lost in Pullman
>
>   They hate Pullman
>
>   Pullman traffic is horrible because they have a game
>
>   They do not know their way around Pullman
>
>   They like the Color Blue
>
>   The Queen of England is English
>
>   Their girlfriend is ugly
>
>   OK so the last three were irrational and illogical but so is the  
>reasons for opposing the right of shoppers to shop where they want.

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