[Vision2020] Safer Crossings

Fri Jan 27 21:26:50 PST 2006

J, Tom, Tom, Matt, Donovan, and all:

Traffic signal placement on both Highway 8 (east side and west side 
of town) and on Hwy. 95 are controlled by the Idaho Transportation 
Dept, not the City of Moscow.  Rather than traffic control Hwy 8 at 
Mt. View, the intersection was rerouted to make the sight distance 
meet requirements that now allow southbound Mt. View to enter Hwy 8. 
That eliminated the short 1-way from 8 to White Ave.  

All three locations are dangerous.   The presentation (mentioned at 
the beginning of this thread) at the last Council meeting showed some 
options for safer pedestrian crossings (automatic lighting built into 
the roadway was part) on 3rd/Hwy 8 near Ambassador Auto where 
eastbound traffic funnels from 2 to 1 lane as well as at Mt. View and 
D.  After discussion, I believe Council asked staff to look into 
adding the crossing near Tri-State to the grant request.  
Nevertheless, even if the safety is upgraded, I often see pedestrians 
pay attention to traffic from one direction only, cars in the right 
travel lane passing cars that are stopped in the left travel lane--
"oh, see they were stopped for pedestrians, good thing we just missed 
them..." and bicyclists also in danger in some fashion.  

There is probably no simple answer, but UI, the City, and County 
might well join in some pedestrian/driver awareness (and 
enforcement?) efforts before we lose someone.    

Having just watched the video, Tom H. can correct me if I miss, but I 
believe the cost quoted to add a traffic light at Mt. View and D was 
in the neighborhood of $150,000.  Council discussed requested further 
information about adding stop signs rather than (or in addition to) 
just the crosswalk upgrade.  

Mike

Date sent:      	Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:46:11 -0800 (PST)
From:           	Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
Subject:        	Re: [Vision2020] Re: D Street and Mountain View (Was: The
	pledgeControversy/more
To:             	Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, the_ivies3 at yahoo.com,
       	vision2020 at moscow.com
Copies to:      	
"How about a light on the Moscow/Pullman highway by Tri- State. Its 
only a 
matter of time before one of the college kids gets smacked."

A huge second on that one.

And somebody, PLEASE fill in that pothole on the corner of White and 
the Troy Highway. As you make a right onto the Highway you hit it. It 
is not just a a hole, your entire tire goes into it. 

_DJA.

Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:

    How about a light on the Moscow/Pullman highway by Tri- State. Its 
    only a 
    matter of time before one of the college kids gets smacked.

    >From: Tom Ivie 
    >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
    >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Re: D Street and Mountain View (Was: The 
    >pledgeControversy/more pressing concerns)
    >Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006! 15:42:17 -0800 (PST)
    >
    > That's a good one to start with. What are the reasons it is a good 
    >idea? pedestrian traffic trying to cross? Vehicles trying to cross? 
    Both? 
    > Is there a bicycle lane on Styner? Should there be if there isn't? 
    Are 
    >there any reasons that a light there would be a bad idea? Doesn't it 
    slope 
    >down the south side of that intersection? Would that be any kind of 
    reason 
    >that it wouldn't work?
    >
    >joekc at adelphia.net wrote: What about a light on Styner and Rt. 8?
    >--
    >Joe Campbell
    >
    >---- Tom Ivie wrote:
    >
    >=============
    >What about other intersections in Moscow that could use stop signs? 
    Any 
    >ideas? I have a couple on my short list but I'll admit I don't 
    regularly 
    >hit every street in Moscow.
    >
    >My short list includes making Blaine & Third as well as Blaine and 
    1st 
    >four-way stops (currently they are two-way not s! topping traffic on 
    Blaine. 
    >I think this would help with traffic/safety issues at Lena 
    Elementary. I 
    >think Hayes and Third could probably be made into a four-way stop as 
    well. 
    >I have heard it suggested that 6th and Mt. View could be a viable 
    place for 
    >a four-way stop as well as Mt. View and White. Any thoughts or ideas 
    on 
    >these? What about a three-way stop at D and Eisenhower by McDonald 
    >elementary? Another suggestion I have heard on v2020 in the past was 
    a 
    >three-way stop at Hayes and 6th. I am sure there are others that you 
    people 
    >can come up with and I would like to hear them. -Tom
    >
    >Tom Hansen wrote:
    >v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* 
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    >st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Thank you, Mr. Ivie.
    >
    >Although, I am familiar with the council’s discussion concerning the 
    >intersection of D Street and Mountain View (after having watched the 
    >session on television), I feel that my input would not add credence 
    to 
    >either side of the argument. My many ventures in the past few years 
    have 
    >placed me in its vicinity maybe two or three times.
    >
    >However, I would be interested in “listening in” to the discussion 
    as it 
    >evolves here on V2020.
    >
    >How about it, Moscow? Let’s pass the soap box to some people with 
    knowledge 
    >concerning this issue.
    >
    >Thanks again, Mr. Ivie, for clearing the air.
    >
    >Tom “going stealth” Hansen
    >Moscow, Idaho
    >
    >"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of 
    arriving 
    >safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid 
    in 
    >sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body 
    thoroughly used 
    >up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
    >
    >
    >---------------------------------
    >
    >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-
    bounces at moscow.com] 
    >On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
    >Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:51 PM
    >To: J Ford; vision2020 at moscow.com
    >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The pledge Controversy/more pressing 
    concerns
    >
    >
    >I think J hit the nail square on the head with this one. There ARE 
    more 
    >pressing things going on in Moscow. The Council and Mayor do a heck 
    of a 
    >lot more than just recite pledges and most of it we never hear 
    about. The D 
    >and Mt. View issue is an excellent case in point. That insightful 
    >discussion by City Council at the previous Council meeting has led 
    to that 
    >intersection being added to the agenda for the Public Works Finance 
    >Committee. Something proactive and possitive will likely come from 
    it, 
    >which is more than I can say about this pledge discussion. -Tom
    >
    >
    >
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