[Vision2020] what the Bible really teaches (was DouglasWilsononwomen)

[Michael]

Keely,

 

Thank you for the well reasoned reply to my question.  For now, I'll focus
on what I consider to be the two primary theological issues you reference.
(The exegetical stuff can wait).

 

First, I'm not convinced that we should separate biology from ontology.  I
would think that our bodies are who we are, or at least an indispensable
part of who we are. Our biology is our ontology-at least to some important
degree.  Likewise, I don't know why we should separate our functional
'roles' in the world from our biological abilities and limitations.  It
would seem that God's design plan would have determined our role and
biological framework as mutually supportive.  The role design would be
dependent on biological design, and the biological design would be dependent
on role design (e.g. when designing a house the foundation plans and the
roof plans cannot be created independently; any determination in one will
determine the design in the other).  I'm also not clear why we should not
consider 'child bearing' an important role.  It is an amazing and long term
experience for a woman per child; at certain times in each child bearing
drama the woman is given totally to her 'task' of child bearing: new
clothing, learning more about her body, preparing for the birth, labor,
healing, breast feeding, etc.  And if child bearing is a gender specific
role, then why not suppose there could be more layers and modalities of
gender related roles? Is child bearing ability the only difference between
the body of a man and woman?  

 

Second, although you do have equality in the Trinity, you also have
subordination of sorts.  The Son eternally proceeds from the father, and
when the Son became man, he submitted to the will of the Father. And the Son
did so not merely in His human capacity, but also in his role as Eternal
Son.  So the 'ontology' of the Trinity you mention would seem to evidence a
form of subordination between a man and woman; as the Father is head of the
Son, so is a man the head of a woman; in so far as 'head' means 'source,'
the woman comes from the man as the Son comes from the Father.  The eternal
dance allows one party to lead the first step.

 

Michael Metzler

 

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