[Vision2020] Clarifications:Al Zawahiri Attack in Pakistan

[Pat Kraut]

OK this should read 'been' not be...we all do it!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clarifications:Al Zawahiri Attack in Pakistan


I have seen these reports for years now from some of the most 'respectable
news sources...I guess they could be right. At least to my knowledge no one
is listed as having be abducted and not brought back. If you haven't seen
them on CNN you need to watch more. I believe there was a story on 60 min
one night.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Clarifications:Al Zawahiri Attack in Pakistan


>From this morning's New York Times, on-line edition: "The airstrike killed
civilians in a village in northwest Pakistan but missed its target, the No.
2 leader of Al Qaeda, officials said."

By the way, just in case anyone will suggest that I only get my information
from one news source, I did happen to turn on Fox News recently and I saw
Bill O'Reilly interviewing a couple who claimed to be abducted by space
aliens. I am not making this up! The woman said: "The thing about space
aliens is that they always bring you back." Again, I am not making this up.

Joe

---- Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
> All:
>
> I am over my polite limit on posts today, but due to a thoughtless and
> insulting ad hominem attack I received privately in regards to my post
> referencing the book "Imperial Hubris," written by a CIA analyst, who
worked
> as head of the Bin Laden unit at the Central Intelligence Agency's counter
> terrorist center from 1996 to 1999, and the comments by Bill Maher on
Larry
> King Live, regarding the potential impact on Al Queda of killing Al
> Zawahiri, I think an immediate response is necessary to clarify my
thinking
> on these issues.
>
> I am in no way excusing Al Zawahiri's connections to 9/11 or terrorism
> anywhere, nor am I saying the USA should not be pursuing terrorists,
> including Al Zawahiri, who commit terrorist acts.  I do have problems with
> the USA killing innocent civilians, however, when pursuing the war on
> terror.
>
> My point, put simply, was that it is doubtful that killing Al Zawahiri
will
> have a significant impact on Al Queda.
>
> The book "Imperial Hubris" is not a joke or a fraud.  The author presents
a
> serious analysis of major problems with the US approach to the war on
> terror, the war in Iraq among them. But he is not against US military
action
> to prosecute the war on terror.  In fact, the author advocates a
> "relentless, brutal, and... blood soaked offensive..."  What else would
you
> expect from a CIA veteran?  Peace, love and flowers as a solution?  The
> author states in the news report that I provided earlier today via a web
> link, and provided again at the bottom here, that, to paraphrase, many at
> his former work place (CIA) agree with many of his conclusions.
>
> It appeared the person who privately sent me the thoughtless, insulting
and
> ad hominem attack regarding these issues had not read the content at the
web
> links I provided with my earlier post today on "Imperial Hubris."  They
> might consider reading this book first before dismissing it so quickly.
> Here is a web link to an Amazon report on this book, along with one of the
> web links I earlier provided today on this same author and book:
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1574888498/103-8676584-3434231?v=glance&n=283155
>
> http://au.news.yahoo.com/040808/2/q8lp.html
>
> Ted Moffett

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