[Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning
Law&FreewheelingCapitalism)
Pat Kraut
pkraut at moscow.com
Thu Jan 12 20:40:32 PST 2006
Oh! Yes! I do remeber the indian!
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From: "Kit Craine" <kcraine at moscow.com>
To: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning
Law&FreewheelingCapitalism)
How about Bjorkland’s Hardware, with the indian head in the window,
draw by someone shooting bullets through a sheet of metal? And,
actually finding it open because it seldom was? And, when it did
close the auction went on all day and you could buy a case of surplus
WWII ammo real cheap?
Kit Craine
On Jan 12, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Carl Westberg wrote:
> You've just sent me on a trip down Moscow Memory Lane. Anyone else
> remember Fountain's Grocery on north Main, Rollefson's grocery on
> Third Street, the Sanitary Market, IGA when it was at the recent Co-
> op, the days when the Moscow Bakery and Hunter's Candy sat side by
> side on Third Street. Carter's Drug? The Parisian? Fonks?
> Thrifty Five and Dime? Ward Hardware? The Varsity restaurant?
> Roger's Ice Cream? I believe I'm going to get
> misty.
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> Carl Westberg Jr.
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>> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>, "Area Man (Dan C)"
>> <areaman at moscow.com>
>> CC: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law
>> &FreewheelingCapitalism)
>> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:58:13 -0800
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>> Mr. Moffett, It's not how long you have been here,but how early in
>> you life you got here. If you moved to Moscow before you were 5
>> years old your an "old timer." Everyone else is a jonney come
>> lately. Growing up in a place gives a person a certain
>> perspective. When you have seen the big, bad Safeway store move to
>> town and displace the various ma & pa markets that were the order
>> of the day back then, you will have a reference point for
>> development in Moscow.
>>
>> g.crabtree
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ted Moffett
>> To: Area Man (Dan C)
>> Cc: vision2020
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law &
>> FreewheelingCapitalism)
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>> Dan et. al.
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>> How long does someone need to live in Moscow or the Palouse to
>> be considered an "old timer," in your opinion? I guess you think
>> 20 years is not enough? Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?
>>
>> Do you really think the "transplants" are chasing the "old
>> timers" out of town? That's a strong statement. I think some
>> accurate facts are needed to back that up. I don't think many
>> "transplants" would like this view of their impact.
>>
>> It would be interesting to attempt to survey the "transplants"
>> to really find out if they think development in the Moscow area is
>> too much or OK. I know people who are new to the area who think
>> that those who complain about the increase in traffic, etc. to be
>> laughable, when they compare Moscow to Boston, etc. It's a
>> relative issue, I guess. I can compare Moscow's current traffic
>> to 1965 when I first walked the streets of this "little" town, and
>> I personally don't like the increase in traffic, among other
>> changes growth is bringing.
>>
>> I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise that I am going to
>> move to Boise to escape all the traffic up here! But really I am
>> not totally joking. I expect traffic and big development in
>> Boise, but I have no reference point for how Boise was 50 years
>> ago, or not a very personal heartfelt reference point. But I do
>> have such a reference point for Moscow.
>>
>> "All Things Must Pass," as the late great George Harrison sang
>> on his double solo album of the same title.
>>
>> Ted Moffett
>>
>> On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C) <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
>> Ted said:
>> "The growth in population will fuel an increasing mentality
>> that does
>> not even know about or care about what is being lost, when
>> people with
>> money move to the Palouse from much bigger uglier cities, who
>> will think
>> that the older locals who complain about too much unmanaged or
>> ugly
>> development compromising the quality of life, are so quaint."
>>
>> I have found that a lot of people who are most vocal against
>> "unmanaged
>> or ugly development compromising the quality of life" are not
>> older
>> locals, but transplants. Yes, there are some who are vocal
>> that have
>> been here their entire lives, but most have not. I'm not
>> saying that
>> unmanaged development is good, I'm just expressing my opinion
>> about who
>> is most vocal about it (or anything else, for that matter).
>> Part of
>> that reason is that the transplants are so vocal and good at
>> making
>> changes that it is chasing the old timers out of town.
>>
>> Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you an old timer.
>> Definitely
>> not an old timer like that ol' fart John Weber.
>>
>> DC
>>
>> P.S. I like John, it's just been a few months since the
>> campaign, and
>> he probably misses me poking fun at him. Although, since he is a
>> technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
>>
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