[Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law &FreewheelingCapitalism)

Kit Craine kcraine at moscow.com
Thu Jan 12 10:56:22 PST 2006


How about Bjorkland’s Hardware, with the indian head in the window,  
draw by someone shooting bullets through a sheet of metal? And,  
actually finding it open because it seldom was? And, when it did  
close the auction went on all day and you could buy a case of surplus  
WWII ammo real cheap?

Kit Craine

On Jan 12, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Carl Westberg wrote:


> You've just sent me on a trip down Moscow Memory Lane.  Anyone else  
> remember Fountain's Grocery on north Main, Rollefson's grocery on  
> Third Street, the Sanitary Market, IGA when it was at the recent Co- 
> op, the days when the Moscow Bakery and Hunter's Candy sat side by  
> side on Third Street.  Carter's Drug?  The Parisian?  Fonks?   
> Thrifty Five and Dime?  Ward Hardware?  The Varsity restaurant?   
> Roger's Ice Cream?  I believe I'm going to get  
> misty.                                                                 
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>> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>> To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>,        "Area Man (Dan C)"  
>> <areaman at moscow.com>
>> CC: vision2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law  
>> &FreewheelingCapitalism)
>> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:58:13 -0800
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>> Mr. Moffett, It's not how long you have been here,but how early in  
>> you life you got here. If you moved to Moscow before you were 5  
>> years old your an "old timer." Everyone else is a jonney come  
>> lately. Growing up in a place gives a person a certain  
>> perspective. When you have seen the big, bad Safeway store move to  
>> town and displace the various ma & pa markets that were the order  
>> of the day back then, you will have a reference point for  
>> development in Moscow.
>>
>> g.crabtree
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Ted Moffett
>>   To: Area Man (Dan C)
>>   Cc: vision2020
>>   Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:39 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020]Who's most vocal? (was Zoning Law &  
>> FreewheelingCapitalism)
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>>   Dan et. al.
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>>   How long does someone need to live in Moscow or the Palouse to  
>> be considered an "old timer," in your opinion?  I guess you think  
>> 20 years is not enough?  Then is it 30, 40, 50 years?
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>>   Do you really think the "transplants" are chasing the "old  
>> timers" out of town?  That's a strong statement.  I think some  
>> accurate facts are needed to back that up.  I don't think many  
>> "transplants" would like this view of their impact.
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>>   It would be interesting to attempt to survey the "transplants"  
>> to really find out if they think development in the Moscow area is  
>> too much or OK.  I know people who are new to the area who think  
>> that those who complain about the increase in traffic, etc. to be  
>> laughable, when they compare Moscow to Boston, etc. It's a  
>> relative issue, I guess.  I can compare Moscow's current traffic  
>> to 1965 when I first walked the streets of this "little" town, and  
>> I personally don't like the increase in traffic, among other  
>> changes growth is bringing.
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>>   I like to joke with a friend of mine in Boise that I am going to  
>> move to Boise to escape all the traffic up here!  But really I am  
>> not totally joking.  I expect traffic and big development in  
>> Boise, but I have no reference point for how Boise was 50 years  
>> ago, or not a very personal heartfelt reference point.  But I do  
>> have such a reference point for Moscow.
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>>   "All Things Must Pass," as the late great George Harrison sang  
>> on his double solo album of the same title.
>>
>>   Ted Moffett
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>>   On 1/9/06, Area Man (Dan C) <areaman at moscow.com> wrote:
>>     Ted said:
>>     "The growth in population will fuel an increasing mentality  
>> that does
>>     not even know about or care about what is being lost, when  
>> people with
>>     money move to the Palouse from much bigger uglier cities, who  
>> will think
>>     that the older locals who complain about too much unmanaged or  
>> ugly
>>     development compromising the quality of life, are so quaint."
>>
>>     I have found that a lot of people who are most vocal against  
>> "unmanaged
>>     or ugly development compromising the quality of life" are not  
>> older
>>     locals, but transplants.  Yes, there are some  who are vocal  
>> that have
>>     been here their entire lives, but most have not.  I'm not  
>> saying that
>>     unmanaged development is good, I'm just expressing my opinion  
>> about who
>>     is most vocal about it (or anything else, for that matter).   
>> Part of
>>     that reason is that the transplants are so vocal and good at  
>> making
>>     changes that it is chasing the old timers out of town.
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>>     Moving to town 20 years ago doesn't make you an old timer.   
>> Definitely
>>     not an old timer like that ol' fart John Weber.
>>
>>     DC
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>>     P.S.  I like John, it's just been a few months since the  
>> campaign, and
>>     he probably misses me poking fun at him.  Although, since he is a
>>     technophobe, he won't see this anyway.
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